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tations friends and welcome back uh we

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are here tonight on a special night some

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of you know for quite some time that

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I've been creating something called uh

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spectral distribution Network spectral

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is my company and uh we needed to

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increase the distribution of the show

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across as many and as wide a bunch of

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platforms as possible so I'm happy to

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say that all of that is now done and

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working and tonight for the first time

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uh we here at true Seekers are

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Rumble and odyssey and I want to thank

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Odyssey and uh is quickly becoming my

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new favorite alternative platform for

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video distribution and now streaming we

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upload the live shows Once they were

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including bit shoot Rumble and odyssey

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but it became too much oh and by the way

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we tried twitch and we came very close

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to getting the numbers for monetization

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but it just seemed as if we would get

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better views on Twitter so we only had

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so many slots available we switched over

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to Twitter so now we were are back so

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tonight is the first night of this new

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distribution Network and we're on two

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same time I am checking in with all the

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streams and it seems like all of the

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streams on each distribution Point are

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healthy and everything is working I

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can't tell you how happy I am about that

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uh now as far as tonight it's the UFO

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report uh some of you know that I bring

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in uh some of my friends from the world

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of UFOs and uh tonight we have uh Louis

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caitano who is uh another one of those

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guests who came here once and I

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constantly get emails we kind of lost

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touch he uh I think he got his Twitter

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account suspended for something and he

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was like fighting with uh somebody that

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you know like I'm not serious I don't

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know I'm going to ask him about that for

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more details but so I lost touch with

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them and I couldn't find his email

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address uh but I'm glad that we've

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reconnected recently he's been on this

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invisible night school with Leah who was

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also a previous guest here and he's the

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one who does those amazing charts

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charting out all the UFO grifters on one

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big poster and all the connections

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between them and uh we had a great talk

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before I'm anxious to get him in here uh

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and I want to thank Him in Advance for

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being here welcome Lewis good to have

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you back I'm sorry I lost you somehow I

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did I just couldn't find you people are

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like you gotta you gotta bring that

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guest back and I'm like I'd love to I

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don't know what happened I thought do

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you know Lewis a lot of people just get

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disgusted with all this stuff and they

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literally just kill their accounts and

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disappear

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I thought that you were you know in that

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situation because it happens right

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what happened to your Twitter account

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I just got into a spot with a Neo-Nazi

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and um Twitter pre Elon Twitter cited

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with them right

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although that that person eventually had

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so there was some comma well good for

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that and I see that you have been on

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this uh show with Leah is that like a

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regular thing for you now for yourself

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yeah and and you have really been

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looking into something that is a guilty

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pleasure of mine which is the original

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contact e movement from the 50s and 60s

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because it's so hokey and I wonder how

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anybody could have believed any of that

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all these early contact ease are these

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just Prof the early version of today's

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equivalent UFO profiteering huckster or

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or did some of them you think have some

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kind of genuine experiences I think many

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of them had genuine experiences and was

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sincere but I think some of them were

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definitely grifters but I think that

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um certain social stresses because we

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the Soviet Union and certainly yeah they

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together and transcend its problems and

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AL it was always that the aliens were

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coming here to save Humanity or save the

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save the human race somehow so if you're

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in a hopeless situation or your life's

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not going well this wasn't a very

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appealing message right yeah and

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especially in an age where Science and

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instead of traditional religion but

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people often still needed something from

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the traditional religion even if they

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let go of it so the aliens kind of stood

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in for the you know for God

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yeah so instead of becoming a born-again

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Christian you joined a UFO cult and

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there was many of them back there

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and you mentioned George Van Tassel to

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me before I liked George Van Tassel

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Howard Menger Georgia damsky and of

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course the Billy Meyer little would I

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know that I would become part of the

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Billy Myers story

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that's so funny

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so yeah Van Tassel to me seemed to be a

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grifter because he was always raising

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money he was going to build this secret

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device that the aliens told him how to

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build the Integratron which by the way I

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don't know if you did you know this

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Lewis it makes no sense because

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according to Van Tassel they were going

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to use some kind of Tesla coil

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technology inside the building that was

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going to make it a healing device and a

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time travel device and a teleporter and

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a Stargate and all these different

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things but if you go there in person the

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whole building is built out of like

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super dry wood so this didn't make any

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sense and I try to ask the people giving

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the tour about that and they had no

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explanation for how they were going to

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put super high temperature super high

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cardboard dry wood building it wouldn't

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work like how do you do that is the what

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they were going to build like a metal

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structure around it or something like

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that they had the people who run that

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place now had no idea how they intended

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to put the the the actual for those that

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don't know the Integratron they built

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the building but then all of the pie in

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the sky promises for this alien inspired

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or delivered technology that he was

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going to use to make the device work

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uh and by the way it was it was one of

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those like everything devices it was

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going to be it would cure you of cancer

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going to be all these different things

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they never he collected money for

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decades for that thing and all he did

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was build and I have to say it's an

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interesting dome-like building but he

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never delivered on the promise of the

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technology part of it and it never did

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anything it doesn't do anything that he

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promised nothing well it sounds a lot

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um it came from uh Edward bulwa litten's

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book of real and the coming race which

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was published in 1871 it was about like

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a Subterranean super race of um

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humanoids who um

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helpful might have been influenced by

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real energy okay here's the inside of

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this thing like yeah it's all like

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you're not putting a high voltage device

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inside this wood Building without

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burning it down the first time you fire

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that up they you know yeah Tesla coils

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shooting lightning bolts all around this

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thing would not have been a good idea

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it looks sort of like a flying saucer

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sort of free energy then obviously we

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yeah definitely and here's a shot of Van

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Tassel he had uh

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scale models of the of the building

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before he actually built it but he

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collected money for decades and decades

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uh Hollywood people that were giving him

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a lot of money and things and getting

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personal tours and getting promised he

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promised some of these big donors that

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they would be the first people to use to

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get access to the device and the

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technology and you know so uh

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probably have if she was alive back then

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she would have given a lot of money to

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this guy yeah

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having been there it's an interesting

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building and being like a recording

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studio guy it has amazing acoustics

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you know but other than that it's just a

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cool Dome building and no one also knows

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where all the money went in other words

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you know and don't you dare if you go on

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a tour you should have seen their face

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Louis I said I'm aware that he collected

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at least 20 or 30 times what it would

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cost to build this structure in money do

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you guys know what happened to the rest

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of the money and they just made this

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funny face and they're like well we're

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not accountants that's what one of them

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told me we're not accountants you know

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and now it's a tourist trap you can go

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there and pay some money and get a tour

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yeah and they help and they hold these

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events there in a minute and of course

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like meditation it's like new agey you

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can go there and yeah there's like yoga

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classes meditation classes during the

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week there and there's membership

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the Acoustics right like it's all about

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vibrations

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very often new age people often conflate

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um acoustic vibrations with

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electromagnetic uh vibrations and it all

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kind of gets lumped together

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you're right you know if it's like a

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structure which has got nice Acoustics

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then that probably

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suggests to them that it's also going to

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have some sort of

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um electromagnetic uh effects as well

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Etc

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it's it's it's pretty yeah it's all

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about raising your vibration but it did

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you know this Lewis that

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everybody that says you have to raise

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your vibration in the New Age Community

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is completely and totally wrong

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the best brain states are at the lowest

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vibration

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then they missed that point I never

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understood that like you're telling me

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to raise my vibration but

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like uh you know somebody who's like a

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Master Level uh meditator shallowing

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Monk and and things like that they learn

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to to lower their brains brainwave

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vibrations and that's where the best

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meditative states are supposed to be so

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I I never understood raise your

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vibration it doesn't make sense to me

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I guess it's at a higher level because

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they're thinking of transcendence well I

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know that cocaine is real big in those

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in some of those gurus and maybe that's

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what they mean you've got to raise your

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vibration with some cocaine I don't know

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it doesn't make any sense it was Van

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Tassel um a drug addict or a cocaine

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user I I don't know I don't recall ever

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hearing that he was but he certainly

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seemed to be a a grifter you know here

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uh this is a giant rock which for those

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that don't know was just this giant rock

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out in the desert he bought some land

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around it he started an airport there

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and even reportedly very famous people

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like Howard Hughes would fly into that

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airport and go to some of these events

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they had a restaurant there like sort of

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under the rock or near the rock right

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you could go buy a hamburger and hear

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about aliens this was the early version

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of the UFO Community everybody would go

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there and everybody had books and

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pamphlets to give you or books to sell

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you about their contact with the

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venetians or the Martians or the people

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from Mercury

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pretty interesting and they had these

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huge events there

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for years that tassel did and then the

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Integratron became his Focus he was

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going to build this Integratron and it

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was going to do all kinds of things and

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it never did anything other than

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provide Van Tassel with a steady stream

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of income which I think he just lived

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off of for 20 years

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although I do get the impression from

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Reading A's for a damski which is a book

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by Greg bishop and Adam go rightly and

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where I got most of the information for

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that shot that I showed you

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um

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oh yeah I'm gonna share that I'm going

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to share that chart and then also I'm

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going to for the benefit of those

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watching

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um Louis has this incredible chart that

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he made uh about all the connections

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between these people and uh

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I'm gonna tweet it on my Twitter it's at

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Stephen cambian because it might be a

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little difficult to see here but uh let

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me share that that's just you do these

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amazing charts and I always crack up to

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see what people are saying on there on

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Twitter about some of the these charts

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that but there are

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connections between these people right

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there are many connections

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they get ideas from each other they also

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um plagiarize each other to a large

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extent

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and um

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they go on TV they write books

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yeah and look at how many connections

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Van Tassel has yeah there's probably

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spacecraft's convention was a very big

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um it was almost like the Woodstock of

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ufology

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for a long time it was like contact in

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the desert is now right yeah giant rock

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spacecraft conventions there we go

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and a bunch of people went there

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including adamski

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who was like probably the most famous

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contactee

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but um

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again like the the California subculture

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was very important in all of this

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and eventually um psychedelics was also

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very important so we mentioned the drug

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connection but psychedelics became more

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important I guess like in the late 60s

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maybe early 70s around that time

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and I mentioned that because a lot of

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the discourse today have to do with um

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Consciousness and there's a Resurgence

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in the spiritual aspect of ufology as

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well and we see that coming back now

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don't we everybody's so it's

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Consciousness it's Consciousness uh we

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have Elizondo I'm aware that uh you know

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uh several people switch their focus

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that used to be total nuts and bolts

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guys went to

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go to the world of everything is

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consciousness right yeah like Grant

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Cameron is all about that now and he's

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talking to uh contactees and

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experiencers who who are telling him

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that it's all Consciousness

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but I don't I don't really understand

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that does that mean it's all just in our

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heads then when these people see aliens

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I I don't get it I think well there's

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different streams within that one of

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them

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hey hey Leo

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um

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one of the streams within that is that

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the uh there is no matter in the

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universe it's all really Consciousness

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another one is that there's a con a

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spiritual realm that we can tap into and

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we can communicate with the

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extraterrestrials that's sort of like

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what uh Stephen Greer does with his

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outings in the desert

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ce5 yeah yeah C5

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um

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and then there's stuff which kind of is

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a little bit blurry and you can't really

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tell what they're exactly they're trying

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to say if anything

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but certainly I think that the reason

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that Consciousness is making a comeback

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is because um there's a kind of social

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anxiety going on right now about a lack

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of faith in established institutions and

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people are trying to move Beyond science

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um

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trying to find something more kind of

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spiritualism

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but it still has got like the veneer of

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science oh you've got SRI and Russell

446
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targ and how put off are connected to

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these uh to these some of these early

448
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contact D people and weirdness that's

449
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interesting

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and some of those people are still at it

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including puth off

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yeah

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all credible do you

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no I don't think so

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he might have um done some good work

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back in the day on different things but

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I don't think that his musings about

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UFOs or anything like that are very

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credible

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and when Yuri Geller is here in Spectra

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I remember that that was like the AI

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that uh Yuri Dell or the AI

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interdimensional kind of Consciousness

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yeah thing that Yuri Geller and others

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claim to be in contact with in the 70s

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yeah and and incidentally the Soviets

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also had their own parallel psychic

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stuff going on as well even though they

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were meant to be hardened materialists

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that's pretty interesting

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and it would be interesting to do a

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Soviet version of this graph like um

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yeah you probably could right there's

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probably counterparts they I'm sure

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there was Russian contactees

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yep and things like that but I don't

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know the sense I've looked really deeply

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into the contact he's even collecting

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their books and things like that I don't

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know why but I find it kind of comical

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because the science knowledge that they

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had back then was very limited so it was

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always like the aliens were coming from

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Saturn or Mars or Venus

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and then after

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it was clearly established through

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science that those are inhabitable

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planets a lot of those guys

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started blaming the CIA like well the

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CIA made us say it was Saturn it was

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really another star system and are you

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aware of any of that I think Howard

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Menger pulled that he said oh well the

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CIA made me say venetians in my book but

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it's really from the pleiadian star

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system or some you know it's just

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Bizarro right

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well what I've heard is that um some of

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those people they they basically just

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made an excuse that they're not talking

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about a Physical Realm they're talking

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about

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um a spiritual realm on Venus so even

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though like the Venera space probes

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showed that it was 800 degrees

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Fahrenheit and you know 100 atmospheres

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of pressure

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um it wasn't like physically the

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venusians were not physically on Venus

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they were like um in a spiritual

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Dimension or vibration where underground

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bases somebody also said or you know

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none of that made any sense though and

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and why were they always hot chicks do

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you know

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have you noticed that they're always

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like super hot blonde chicks that these

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guys were seeing that were aliens or

519
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super hot Nordic looking like guys that

520
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look like Thor right right I I don't

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understand the origins of that do you

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know more about the origins of the

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so-called nordics

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uh it could have been a Eugenics type of

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impulse

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that they came from a perfect uh Society

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where everybody is healthy and they

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they've got

529
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um at least they can live for hundreds

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of years if not

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eternally

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it could also have had something to do

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with um

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well I think Georgia damski

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um he talked about you know uh Hawthorne

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his the alien that he met in the

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Californian desert

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and um

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George hunt Williamson was his associate

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uh he had been a member of the silver

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shirts organization which was run by

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William Pelley who was a Neo-Nazi and

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there was actually a

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um a religion called soulcroft which had

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been established by Peli and that said

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that white people came from outer space

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and that they would eventually return to

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outer space

549
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what type of racial I'm not saying that

550
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all of them were racists but there could

551
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have been some sort of racial undertone

552
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to it as well

553
00:24:24,289 --> 00:24:21,539
that's kind of bizarre so they were

554
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there were there were some Aryan

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connection do you think sort of like to

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00:24:31,130 --> 00:24:29,039
the Nazis then these were perfect blonde

557
00:24:33,590 --> 00:24:31,140
hair blue-eyed beautiful people

558
00:24:35,330 --> 00:24:33,600
yeah for the most part they they were

559
00:24:37,370 --> 00:24:35,340
described like that but I I don't think

560
00:24:38,930 --> 00:24:37,380
that most of the contactees were white

561
00:24:41,570 --> 00:24:38,940
supremacists but I think that they might

562
00:24:42,830 --> 00:24:41,580
have been maybe unconsciously influenced

563
00:24:45,169 --> 00:24:42,840
by certain

564
00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:45,179
developments in society at the time I

565
00:24:49,010 --> 00:24:48,000
mean it was still a very racist time

566
00:24:51,230 --> 00:24:49,020
um

567
00:24:53,090 --> 00:24:51,240
but that's crazy so that somebody said

568
00:24:55,490 --> 00:24:53,100
all the white people came from outer

569
00:25:01,610 --> 00:24:58,669
yeah did they try to square that with

570
00:25:03,470 --> 00:25:01,620
Evolution anyway or they just some of

571
00:25:05,450 --> 00:25:03,480
them just deny Evolution or some of them

572
00:25:08,750 --> 00:25:05,460
adopt a kind of ancient astronauts

573
00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:08,760
approach which is to say that maybe the

574
00:25:12,110 --> 00:25:10,080
aliens came

575
00:25:14,090 --> 00:25:12,120
here during Antiquity and they

576
00:25:16,190 --> 00:25:14,100
engineered us

577
00:25:17,510 --> 00:25:16,200
or that they

578
00:25:19,130 --> 00:25:17,520
I mean there's different there's

579
00:25:21,409 --> 00:25:19,140
different streams within that but some

580
00:25:23,690 --> 00:25:21,419
of them say that the aliens outright

581
00:25:25,690 --> 00:25:23,700
created Humanity

582
00:25:28,430 --> 00:25:25,700
um or they use genetic engineering on

583
00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:28,440
pre-humans other ones say that different

584
00:25:33,710 --> 00:25:30,240
races have got different

585
00:25:35,630 --> 00:25:33,720
levels in this Cosmic hierarchy

586
00:25:38,149 --> 00:25:35,640
and don't you think it's interesting

587
00:25:40,850 --> 00:25:38,159
Lewis that all the promises that these

588
00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:40,860
original contact these made you know

589
00:25:44,930 --> 00:25:43,200
that the aliens were going to save the

590
00:25:48,529 --> 00:25:44,940
Earth or the aliens who are going to

591
00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:48,539
take us or give us technology or and you

592
00:25:53,450 --> 00:25:50,159
know it's like nothing that they said

593
00:25:55,010 --> 00:25:53,460
turned out to be true or accurate or

594
00:25:56,570 --> 00:25:55,020
nothing happened from it except

595
00:25:59,690 --> 00:25:56,580
everybody filled their pockets with

596
00:26:01,970 --> 00:25:59,700
loads of book money and and Conference

597
00:26:03,769 --> 00:26:01,980
speaking appearances it reminds me of

598
00:26:05,330 --> 00:26:03,779
today because the same thing happens

599
00:26:08,029 --> 00:26:05,340
today all these people with their

600
00:26:11,570 --> 00:26:08,039
promises and disclosures coming any day

601
00:26:14,269 --> 00:26:11,580
now and and uh all we get is tantalizing

602
00:26:15,890 --> 00:26:14,279
maybe evidence No Smoking Gun proof of

603
00:26:19,250 --> 00:26:15,900
anything that these people run around

604
00:26:21,169 --> 00:26:19,260
and sell but everybody's making Hoards

605
00:26:23,090 --> 00:26:21,179
and money and people underestimate

606
00:26:24,649 --> 00:26:23,100
people think I'm crazy like oh there

607
00:26:26,750 --> 00:26:24,659
can't be that much money in it there

608
00:26:27,710 --> 00:26:26,760
there's millions of dollars in this

609
00:26:28,970 --> 00:26:27,720
today

610
00:26:30,769 --> 00:26:28,980
yeah

611
00:26:32,870 --> 00:26:30,779
and there's always a willing Market as

612
00:26:35,570 --> 00:26:32,880
well

613
00:26:38,510 --> 00:26:35,580
let me just let me just um respond to

614
00:26:40,789 --> 00:26:38,520
Walter there in his comment

615
00:26:43,010 --> 00:26:40,799
um he was saying that

616
00:26:45,529 --> 00:26:43,020
um the problem with these charts is that

617
00:26:47,630 --> 00:26:45,539
if I'm showing Associates it's you know

618
00:26:50,090 --> 00:26:47,640
they could be people who don't like each

619
00:26:51,769 --> 00:26:50,100
other and that's true I have to find a

620
00:26:53,990 --> 00:26:51,779
way of better capturing like

621
00:26:55,250 --> 00:26:54,000
antagonistic relationships because it

622
00:26:56,690 --> 00:26:55,260
could give the impression that these

623
00:26:58,490 --> 00:26:56,700
people are just all in bed with each

624
00:27:01,370 --> 00:26:58,500
other but that's not what I'm trying to

625
00:27:04,490 --> 00:27:01,380
convey so I have to find some better way

626
00:27:05,210 --> 00:27:04,500
to kind of um distinguish those you know

627
00:27:07,130 --> 00:27:05,220
um

628
00:27:09,470 --> 00:27:07,140
those sorts of things so he's right

629
00:27:11,090 --> 00:27:09,480
there do you think though it was like do

630
00:27:13,850 --> 00:27:11,100
you know that there is sort of like

631
00:27:15,950 --> 00:27:13,860
Unwritten rules today you know and these

632
00:27:18,169 --> 00:27:15,960
grifters all

633
00:27:21,010 --> 00:27:18,179
they sort of they have to work together

634
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:21,020
at different conferences so it's rare

635
00:27:27,350 --> 00:27:24,480
usually it's like one doesn't tell you

636
00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:27,360
that that one's a fraud you know because

637
00:27:31,970 --> 00:27:29,760
then you then they gotta work together

638
00:27:33,830 --> 00:27:31,980
at these conferences and and in order to

639
00:27:36,110 --> 00:27:33,840
keep I've been told this by some people

640
00:27:38,269 --> 00:27:36,120
that worked directly for some of the

641
00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:38,279
bigger UFO celebrities that they all

642
00:27:43,070 --> 00:27:41,039
have sort of Unwritten agreement that

643
00:27:45,470 --> 00:27:43,080
you don't go after each other because

644
00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:45,480
you just stay friendly or neutral

645
00:27:50,810 --> 00:27:48,480
because we all have to go out to these

646
00:27:52,789 --> 00:27:50,820
conferences and get this money and if

647
00:27:55,490 --> 00:27:52,799
we're at each other's throats or you

648
00:27:56,990 --> 00:27:55,500
know that's difficult

649
00:27:59,149 --> 00:27:57,000
yeah you have to maintain a kind of

650
00:28:01,190 --> 00:27:59,159
atmosphere where

651
00:28:03,950 --> 00:28:01,200
kind of the general tropes are taken to

652
00:28:05,750 --> 00:28:03,960
be serious but um the particular people

653
00:28:08,390 --> 00:28:05,760
can still disagree about the particulars

654
00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:08,400
but you don't attack the the basics I

655
00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:09,360
guess

656
00:28:13,370 --> 00:28:11,700
yeah but then when we see when the money

657
00:28:16,430 --> 00:28:13,380
starts drying up for some of these

658
00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:16,440
people or you know like I think in the

659
00:28:20,750 --> 00:28:18,480
case of Stephen Greer he he saw Lou

660
00:28:23,690 --> 00:28:20,760
Elizondo as huge competition for his

661
00:28:26,510 --> 00:28:23,700
grift so suddenly Lou Alexander was a

662
00:28:28,909 --> 00:28:26,520
bit a bad guy and lying to everybody but

663
00:28:30,850 --> 00:28:28,919
but Greer is telling us the truth with

664
00:28:33,289 --> 00:28:30,860
his flares and

665
00:28:37,130 --> 00:28:33,299
Transcendental Meditation that he sells

666
00:28:38,750 --> 00:28:37,140
it's ridiculous yeah I mean ultimately I

667
00:28:40,430 --> 00:28:38,760
don't think they like each other

668
00:28:43,130 --> 00:28:40,440
these people like each other very much

669
00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:43,140
even though is that the CIA coming again

670
00:28:50,210 --> 00:28:46,640
yeah Lewis well it must be

671
00:28:53,390 --> 00:28:50,220
one of the other three letter agencies

672
00:28:55,789 --> 00:28:53,400
yeah and I just want to comment uh this

673
00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:55,799
is totally unrelated Lewis but I I'm

674
00:29:00,169 --> 00:28:58,320
amazed but it appears that this

675
00:29:01,970 --> 00:29:00,179
multi-stream thing is everything's

676
00:29:05,090 --> 00:29:01,980
working I've checked the streams

677
00:29:08,690 --> 00:29:05,100
everything is live at one time two

678
00:29:10,789 --> 00:29:08,700
Facebook locations YouTube twitch uh

679
00:29:12,289 --> 00:29:10,799
Twitter

680
00:29:14,630 --> 00:29:12,299
Odyssey and Rumble so everything's

681
00:29:16,490 --> 00:29:14,640
working you're the first guest and uh we

682
00:29:19,250 --> 00:29:16,500
have a bigger bull horn now

683
00:29:23,510 --> 00:29:19,260
Louis thanks

684
00:29:26,210 --> 00:29:23,520
yeah so but I I don't understand though

685
00:29:29,149 --> 00:29:26,220
with the did you know like the Howard

686
00:29:32,269 --> 00:29:29,159
menker's children still swear by him

687
00:29:35,510 --> 00:29:32,279
having true and real alien experiences

688
00:29:38,510 --> 00:29:35,520
and they're still huge following for

689
00:29:40,430 --> 00:29:38,520
some of these early contactees like of

690
00:29:44,029 --> 00:29:40,440
course Billy Meyer probably is the most

691
00:29:46,490 --> 00:29:44,039
profitable right now still yeah do you

692
00:29:48,889 --> 00:29:46,500
find that funny that you know they never

693
00:29:50,330 --> 00:29:48,899
delivered anything some of them died and

694
00:29:52,789 --> 00:29:50,340
people are still swearing up and down

695
00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:52,799
that they talk to aliens right

696
00:29:57,289 --> 00:29:55,200
yeah but I don't really find that that

697
00:29:59,690 --> 00:29:57,299
uh surprising because a lot of people

698
00:30:02,210 --> 00:29:59,700
they just want to believe or they've got

699
00:30:04,490 --> 00:30:02,220
a familial relation to the person who's

700
00:30:05,990 --> 00:30:04,500
making the claim so they don't want to

701
00:30:06,950 --> 00:30:06,000
sort of drag their reputation through

702
00:30:08,690 --> 00:30:06,960
the mud

703
00:30:11,149 --> 00:30:08,700
and also they might themselves be

704
00:30:13,190 --> 00:30:11,159
interested in carrying on the the Mythos

705
00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:13,200
for whatever reason

706
00:30:17,630 --> 00:30:15,600
so at least maybe they pretend to

707
00:30:19,130 --> 00:30:17,640
you know agree that it happens or

708
00:30:21,289 --> 00:30:19,140
whatever that the experience was real

709
00:30:22,970 --> 00:30:21,299
and the other thing is actually that um

710
00:30:24,289 --> 00:30:22,980
just because somebody profits from

711
00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:24,299
something doesn't mean that they didn't

712
00:30:27,470 --> 00:30:25,919
have an experience

713
00:30:28,970 --> 00:30:27,480
uh but it doesn't mean that the

714
00:30:30,789 --> 00:30:28,980
experience is genuine just because you

715
00:30:33,470 --> 00:30:30,799
had one like it doesn't mean that the

716
00:30:36,769 --> 00:30:33,480
ontological status of what you're

717
00:30:38,210 --> 00:30:36,779
claiming is actually accurate so

718
00:30:39,710 --> 00:30:38,220
you know you might have had an

719
00:30:41,690 --> 00:30:39,720
experience that you were abducted by

720
00:30:43,549 --> 00:30:41,700
aliens or had a contact

721
00:30:45,769 --> 00:30:43,559
um you know talk in the desert in

722
00:30:47,570 --> 00:30:45,779
California but um

723
00:30:49,190 --> 00:30:47,580
what actually was the cause of that

724
00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:49,200
experience that's the real question

725
00:30:53,450 --> 00:30:51,600
there yeah I mean could a damski just

726
00:30:56,529 --> 00:30:53,460
been eating some mushrooms out there in

727
00:30:59,750 --> 00:30:56,539
the desert or peyote or something

728
00:31:01,909 --> 00:30:59,760
he was having that yeah or maybe it just

729
00:31:03,169 --> 00:31:01,919
got too hot and he was hallucinating or

730
00:31:05,570 --> 00:31:03,179
who knows

731
00:31:08,210 --> 00:31:05,580
because there's modern parallels too

732
00:31:11,450 --> 00:31:08,220
like Anjali claimed that she met these

733
00:31:13,549 --> 00:31:11,460
aliens physically in this tunnel and uh

734
00:31:15,470 --> 00:31:13,559
later and that she wasn't on any drugs

735
00:31:17,649 --> 00:31:15,480
later we find out she was on like five

736
00:31:20,810 --> 00:31:17,659
prescription drugs plus Rick Simpson Oil

737
00:31:22,370 --> 00:31:20,820
and that the tunnel didn't exist and

738
00:31:24,289 --> 00:31:22,380
that the people that were supposed to be

739
00:31:25,789 --> 00:31:24,299
her witnesses to these events all say

740
00:31:28,730 --> 00:31:25,799
nothing happened

741
00:31:30,950 --> 00:31:28,740
yeah so maybe it's drugs and these

742
00:31:32,269 --> 00:31:30,960
people just get convinced right do you

743
00:31:35,029 --> 00:31:32,279
think some of them maybe aren't bad

744
00:31:37,669 --> 00:31:35,039
people or they're not like intentionally

745
00:31:39,769 --> 00:31:37,679
trying to scam people they just had a

746
00:31:41,510 --> 00:31:39,779
drug experience that they took the wrong

747
00:31:45,110 --> 00:31:41,520
way and

748
00:31:46,970 --> 00:31:45,120
got you uh wrapped up in it way more

749
00:31:49,190 --> 00:31:46,980
likely than that they actually met an

750
00:31:52,250 --> 00:31:49,200
alien

751
00:31:54,889 --> 00:31:52,260
I think so yeah

752
00:31:56,570 --> 00:31:54,899
and have you seen the original adamski

753
00:31:57,649 --> 00:31:56,580
materials like the pictures and the

754
00:32:01,549 --> 00:31:57,659
videos

755
00:32:03,769 --> 00:32:01,559
Campbell there mentioned the photos of

756
00:32:06,169 --> 00:32:03,779
the models so he did to an extent know

757
00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:06,179
what it was doing but perhaps um it's

758
00:32:09,889 --> 00:32:07,440
still not out of the question that he

759
00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:09,899
may have had genuine

760
00:32:13,549 --> 00:32:12,000
but I don't really believe that he did

761
00:32:14,750 --> 00:32:13,559
have genuine experiences because when

762
00:32:16,490 --> 00:32:14,760
you think about it he was already

763
00:32:19,010 --> 00:32:16,500
running some

764
00:32:21,590 --> 00:32:19,020
like little scammy type things like the

765
00:32:23,690 --> 00:32:21,600
the Tibetan Royal what was it like the

766
00:32:25,549 --> 00:32:23,700
Royal order of Tibet or something yeah

767
00:32:27,710 --> 00:32:25,559
little Temple

768
00:32:30,409 --> 00:32:27,720
in California and he'd actually been

769
00:32:32,269 --> 00:32:30,419
dishonorably discharged I think from the

770
00:32:34,190 --> 00:32:32,279
Navy if I'm not mistaken during World

771
00:32:35,630 --> 00:32:34,200
War correct yes

772
00:32:37,750 --> 00:32:35,640
um so he was kind of already kind of a

773
00:32:41,090 --> 00:32:37,760
scummy guy so

774
00:32:44,590 --> 00:32:41,100
you know going in we have to be cautious

775
00:32:47,389 --> 00:32:44,600
about what was his motivation yeah

776
00:32:50,210 --> 00:32:47,399
interesting that somehow Lewis the

777
00:32:52,850 --> 00:32:50,220
aliens always pick really scummy guys to

778
00:32:55,970 --> 00:32:52,860
be their ambassadors on Earth yeah I'd

779
00:32:58,370 --> 00:32:55,980
like you know I I like Corey good for

780
00:33:01,070 --> 00:32:58,380
example it's like this guy was like it's

781
00:33:04,970 --> 00:33:01,080
just some loser like why would you pick

782
00:33:07,669 --> 00:33:04,980
that guy among everybody on Earth and oh

783
00:33:09,350 --> 00:33:07,679
I don't know if you heard this but Corey

784
00:33:12,769 --> 00:33:09,360
good is now going to make a video game

785
00:33:15,830 --> 00:33:12,779
to compete with uh Call of Duty he

786
00:33:17,630 --> 00:33:15,840
thinks and I heard him say this on

787
00:33:21,289 --> 00:33:17,640
something somebody sent me a screenshot

788
00:33:23,389 --> 00:33:21,299
and I just thought this is he serious

789
00:33:25,970 --> 00:33:23,399
he's going to somehow compete with a

790
00:33:28,370 --> 00:33:25,980
billion dollar video game company that

791
00:33:30,409 --> 00:33:28,380
has like thousands and thousands of

792
00:33:32,930 --> 00:33:30,419
people working on a video game

793
00:33:35,149 --> 00:33:32,940
you know I mean what how is he gonna

794
00:33:37,549 --> 00:33:35,159
none of this makes any sense to me

795
00:33:39,529 --> 00:33:37,559
anymore I just shake my head but you're

796
00:33:42,409 --> 00:33:39,539
right this damski was very scummy

797
00:33:44,930 --> 00:33:42,419
disowned dishonorably discharged he was

798
00:33:47,330 --> 00:33:44,940
already running this new age scam

799
00:33:50,450 --> 00:33:47,340
that had to do with Tibet and mysticism

800
00:33:52,909 --> 00:33:50,460
I believe as best I recall and you could

801
00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:52,919
buy like a membership card and you could

802
00:33:59,149 --> 00:33:55,919
you know and then he starts seeing

803
00:34:00,769 --> 00:33:59,159
aliens suddenly and then he kind of

804
00:34:03,169 --> 00:34:00,779
dropped everything else and just ran

805
00:34:07,310 --> 00:34:03,179
with the aliens when he I I believe when

806
00:34:10,250 --> 00:34:07,320
he saw how profitable it all was yes and

807
00:34:13,070 --> 00:34:10,260
he also took uh elements of theosophy

808
00:34:15,169 --> 00:34:13,080
everybody did yeah yeah yeah I mean

809
00:34:18,109 --> 00:34:15,179
theosophy is just incredibly

810
00:34:21,710 --> 00:34:18,119
relevant even to this day

811
00:34:24,409 --> 00:34:21,720
um and others without even knowing it

812
00:34:27,230 --> 00:34:24,419
they fueled the the contact e movement

813
00:34:28,490 --> 00:34:27,240
maybe right yeah and so did uh HP

814
00:34:31,849 --> 00:34:28,500
Lovecraft

815
00:34:33,770 --> 00:34:31,859
um you know with a uh Cthulhu and all

816
00:34:35,690 --> 00:34:33,780
those sorts of myths

817
00:34:38,990 --> 00:34:35,700
um did you ever read all those I grew up

818
00:34:42,050 --> 00:34:39,000
uh I've read many many mountains of

819
00:34:44,270 --> 00:34:42,060
Madness and called Cthulhu I I and then

820
00:34:45,710 --> 00:34:44,280
I didn't realize it at the time the

821
00:34:47,750 --> 00:34:45,720
friend of mine pointed out to me that

822
00:34:50,570 --> 00:34:47,760
Metallica was writing

823
00:34:53,510 --> 00:34:50,580
a great like whole albums that were all

824
00:34:55,310 --> 00:34:53,520
based on H.P Lovecraft and I was already

825
00:34:57,349 --> 00:34:55,320
reading the books and I liked Metallica

826
00:34:59,570 --> 00:34:57,359
so it was just interesting that

827
00:35:02,150 --> 00:34:59,580
Lovecraft had that kind of influence you

828
00:35:04,070 --> 00:35:02,160
know and with a Necronomicon it's also

829
00:35:07,609 --> 00:35:04,080
you've got people who believe that it

830
00:35:10,609 --> 00:35:07,619
was real I bought one Peter lavender who

831
00:35:13,730 --> 00:35:10,619
later become involved with ttsa and Tom

832
00:35:16,250 --> 00:35:13,740
Delong into the Stars I think that

833
00:35:18,470 --> 00:35:16,260
everybody wanted that book to be real so

834
00:35:20,290 --> 00:35:18,480
much that he just wrote it that's what I

835
00:35:23,630 --> 00:35:20,300
believe I don't know that he's ever

836
00:35:26,589 --> 00:35:23,640
talked about you know supposedly they

837
00:35:29,990 --> 00:35:26,599
found the manuscript somewhere no

838
00:35:32,030 --> 00:35:30,000
somebody just wrote it and then when I

839
00:35:34,010 --> 00:35:32,040
was younger Louis there was two books

840
00:35:35,810 --> 00:35:34,020
that if you're a real Rebel you know

841
00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:35,820
rebelling against your parents that you

842
00:35:41,450 --> 00:35:38,640
would buy the Necronomicon was one and

843
00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:41,460
the Satanic Bible was the other one and

844
00:35:45,890 --> 00:35:43,680
they were both put out by Avon books who

845
00:35:47,569 --> 00:35:45,900
put out all of this kind of materials

846
00:35:50,030 --> 00:35:47,579
you know

847
00:35:54,470 --> 00:35:50,040
and by the way um everybody should read

848
00:35:59,089 --> 00:35:56,150
uh what is it called

849
00:36:01,370 --> 00:35:59,099
The Cult of alien Gods H.P Lovecraft and

850
00:36:03,349 --> 00:36:01,380
extraterrestrial pop culture

851
00:36:04,849 --> 00:36:03,359
and it's it's really great because he

852
00:36:07,329 --> 00:36:04,859
goes through the whole history of how

853
00:36:10,609 --> 00:36:07,339
Lovecraft developed his um sci-fi ideas

854
00:36:13,010 --> 00:36:10,619
and then how that seeped into

855
00:36:14,870 --> 00:36:13,020
um stories by the morning of The

856
00:36:17,569 --> 00:36:14,880
Magicians by Jacques bergerere and Louis

857
00:36:20,030 --> 00:36:17,579
Pauls that was very important as well in

858
00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:20,040
shaping the beliefs of Eric Von daniken

859
00:36:25,790 --> 00:36:24,240
and Zechariah sitchin and others and um

860
00:36:28,670 --> 00:36:25,800
and all that sort of stuff like

861
00:36:30,109 --> 00:36:28,680
alternative archeology and uh ancient

862
00:36:32,210 --> 00:36:30,119
astronauts

863
00:36:32,750 --> 00:36:32,220
so this is a really great book

864
00:36:35,390 --> 00:36:32,760
um

865
00:36:38,270 --> 00:36:35,400
this is from 2005.

866
00:36:40,010 --> 00:36:38,280
and um I never heard of that I'm gonna

867
00:36:41,630 --> 00:36:40,020
get I'm gonna get that I'm always

868
00:36:44,329 --> 00:36:41,640
looking for new things to read that

869
00:36:46,730 --> 00:36:44,339
looks great and and I do like his other

870
00:36:49,550 --> 00:36:46,740
work he is right now for those unaware

871
00:36:51,829 --> 00:36:49,560
Jason colovito is sort of very skeptical

872
00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:51,839
and he is right now going after Graham

873
00:36:58,310 --> 00:36:55,440
Hancock's Netflix series bit by bit and

874
00:37:01,849 --> 00:36:58,320
I I when I see him on Twitter with all

875
00:37:04,490 --> 00:37:01,859
these posts I just I I get the image of

876
00:37:07,370 --> 00:37:04,500
like a huge tree in the form of grand

877
00:37:09,589 --> 00:37:07,380
Hancock and Jason just down there with

878
00:37:12,890 --> 00:37:09,599
the ax slowly chopping away at the

879
00:37:15,890 --> 00:37:12,900
Mythos that he has created because you

880
00:37:18,290 --> 00:37:15,900
know I mean I I think that it's good to

881
00:37:20,750 --> 00:37:18,300
at least entertain alternative

882
00:37:22,430 --> 00:37:20,760
explanations for things but when it

883
00:37:24,530 --> 00:37:22,440
becomes a multi-million dollar business

884
00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:24,540
of course he's going to keep going with

885
00:37:29,630 --> 00:37:26,880
this stuff even if the scientists say no

886
00:37:31,849 --> 00:37:29,640
no no no no the real archaeologists say

887
00:37:33,829 --> 00:37:31,859
no no no that's not what happened this

888
00:37:36,410 --> 00:37:33,839
you know

889
00:37:38,450 --> 00:37:36,420
yeah and all roads always lead to

890
00:37:40,609 --> 00:37:38,460
Atlanta somehow Lewis that's another

891
00:37:42,710 --> 00:37:40,619
common thing with with the interesting

892
00:37:45,770 --> 00:37:42,720
thing about this um alternative

893
00:37:47,810 --> 00:37:45,780
archeology theme is that

894
00:37:50,690 --> 00:37:47,820
um they've been different periods where

895
00:37:53,210 --> 00:37:50,700
ancient astronauts have been on the rise

896
00:37:55,370 --> 00:37:53,220
and Atlantis and anti-deluvian

897
00:37:57,650 --> 00:37:55,380
civilizations have been on the rise so

898
00:38:00,170 --> 00:37:57,660
it sort of switches back and forth so

899
00:38:03,710 --> 00:38:00,180
Hancock is more in the anti-diluvian

900
00:38:05,690 --> 00:38:03,720
high culture Atlantis type

901
00:38:08,089 --> 00:38:05,700
um stream of that but then you've got

902
00:38:10,010 --> 00:38:08,099
ancient astronaut theorists as well like

903
00:38:11,930 --> 00:38:10,020
sucralos and others

904
00:38:13,970 --> 00:38:11,940
and sometimes they do overlap to an

905
00:38:17,329 --> 00:38:13,980
extent like Atlantis is sometimes seen

906
00:38:19,790 --> 00:38:17,339
as being founded by extraterrestrials

907
00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:19,800
um and I think yeah Hancock was um he

908
00:38:23,690 --> 00:38:21,599
did briefly flirt with ancient

909
00:38:25,310 --> 00:38:23,700
astronauts Theory but then he reverted

910
00:38:28,670 --> 00:38:25,320
back to the

911
00:38:30,770 --> 00:38:28,680
um Elena's explanations but yeah do you

912
00:38:33,829 --> 00:38:30,780
think Atlantis is so tantalizing because

913
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:33,839
it's it's it is tantalizing right to

914
00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:36,720
think maybe that there was a

915
00:38:41,089 --> 00:38:38,880
civilization before us and they had even

916
00:38:43,310 --> 00:38:41,099
better technology and medicine and all

917
00:38:45,109 --> 00:38:43,320
these things that we have now and the

918
00:38:47,810 --> 00:38:45,119
civilization got destroyed but maybe

919
00:38:49,250 --> 00:38:47,820
some remnants of it or there yeah it's

920
00:38:51,589 --> 00:38:49,260
very compelling I mean it's a very

921
00:38:52,370 --> 00:38:51,599
evocative image

922
00:38:53,870 --> 00:38:52,380
um

923
00:38:55,910 --> 00:38:53,880
something about it is just very

924
00:38:58,430 --> 00:38:55,920
evocative I think it's the sense maybe

925
00:39:01,250 --> 00:38:58,440
that history is not linear that it goes

926
00:39:03,170 --> 00:39:01,260
in Cycles because that's kind of what

927
00:39:04,730 --> 00:39:03,180
these um authors are trying to convey

928
00:39:07,370 --> 00:39:04,740
that there's a kind of

929
00:39:10,430 --> 00:39:07,380
cyclical nature to history and then you

930
00:39:12,170 --> 00:39:10,440
get the collapse of great civilizations

931
00:39:15,230 --> 00:39:12,180
it could also Express like a social

932
00:39:16,730 --> 00:39:15,240
anxiety that um current secular society

933
00:39:19,130 --> 00:39:16,740
is failing in some way and that we need

934
00:39:21,410 --> 00:39:19,140
to revert to the past to get to these

935
00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:21,420
like great truths

936
00:39:26,930 --> 00:39:24,240
yeah I don't know for me Louis I I I

937
00:39:29,810 --> 00:39:26,940
like the idea that there's some hidden

938
00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:29,820
knowledge out there or hidden technology

939
00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:32,160
or forgotten knowledge or forgotten

940
00:39:37,130 --> 00:39:34,800
technology so it's very appealing to me

941
00:39:39,589 --> 00:39:37,140
to think that this could be true yeah

942
00:39:41,690 --> 00:39:39,599
you know the problem that I have is that

943
00:39:43,550 --> 00:39:41,700
you know the people that all the people

944
00:39:46,190 --> 00:39:43,560
that talk about Atlantis being a real

945
00:39:47,990 --> 00:39:46,200
thing are always some kind of new age or

946
00:39:50,750 --> 00:39:48,000
psychic or somebody that's selling

947
00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:50,760
something and they're using Atlantis to

948
00:39:57,470 --> 00:39:54,960
make their story work you know somehow

949
00:39:59,690 --> 00:39:57,480
yeah but I mean you mentioned that um

950
00:40:02,930 --> 00:39:59,700
you like the idea of there being ancient

951
00:40:04,310 --> 00:40:02,940
uh Mysteries and so on there are I mean

952
00:40:07,130 --> 00:40:04,320
obviously there are many things we don't

953
00:40:09,170 --> 00:40:07,140
know about history and um unanswered

954
00:40:11,270 --> 00:40:09,180
questions there's also some technology

955
00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:11,280
like I figure what it what it's called

956
00:40:14,569 --> 00:40:12,720
it's like that clock or something or

957
00:40:16,730 --> 00:40:14,579
that calculator it's meant to be like

958
00:40:18,230 --> 00:40:16,740
some sort of ancient computer

959
00:40:20,569 --> 00:40:18,240
I don't know if you're familiar with

960
00:40:21,650 --> 00:40:20,579
that yes I have seen that yeah but I

961
00:40:23,990 --> 00:40:21,660
mean that's got nothing to do with

962
00:40:25,130 --> 00:40:24,000
Atlantis it's just that the Ancients had

963
00:40:27,230 --> 00:40:25,140
some

964
00:40:30,290 --> 00:40:27,240
skills that we don't know about

965
00:40:34,010 --> 00:40:30,300
Etc so we don't need Atlantis to be

966
00:40:37,670 --> 00:40:34,020
fascinated by ancient Mysteries

967
00:40:42,550 --> 00:40:40,490
yeah I I don't know I I hear a lot of

968
00:40:46,910 --> 00:40:42,560
people talking about Edgar Casey

969
00:40:48,650 --> 00:40:46,920
readings about Atlantis and Casey the

970
00:40:50,210 --> 00:40:48,660
thing that I find interesting is that

971
00:40:52,849 --> 00:40:50,220
some people just totally accept

972
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:52,859
everything he said as factually and

973
00:40:59,150 --> 00:40:56,880
facts and true like you know he talked

974
00:41:01,130 --> 00:40:59,160
about the power sources that they used

975
00:41:04,250 --> 00:41:01,140
and that and how that power source like

976
00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:04,260
a crystal some sort of super Advanced

977
00:41:09,950 --> 00:41:06,720
crystal energy power sources still

978
00:41:12,109 --> 00:41:09,960
submerged and people actually believe

979
00:41:14,750 --> 00:41:12,119
that the government is looking for that

980
00:41:16,670 --> 00:41:14,760
right now and it's still down there in

981
00:41:19,069 --> 00:41:16,680
the depths of the ocean in the Atlantic

982
00:41:21,230 --> 00:41:19,079
Ocean somewhere I mean it's tantalizing

983
00:41:22,970 --> 00:41:21,240
to think about that but the fact that

984
00:41:26,329 --> 00:41:22,980
some guy who just claimed to be a

985
00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:26,339
psychic said it's that's what is true

986
00:41:31,730 --> 00:41:30,000
there's no there's never any evidence so

987
00:41:34,190 --> 00:41:31,740
I have a hard time with

988
00:41:36,230 --> 00:41:34,200
you know that also is reminiscent

989
00:41:39,170 --> 00:41:36,240
reminiscent of real

990
00:41:41,089 --> 00:41:39,180
and yeah like that like this evocative

991
00:41:44,390 --> 00:41:41,099
idea that there's free energy or some

992
00:41:46,190 --> 00:41:44,400
sort of vitalistic energy source

993
00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:46,200
and um

994
00:41:49,670 --> 00:41:48,000
there's actually I was talking about

995
00:41:52,849 --> 00:41:49,680
this in one of my videos on my channel

996
00:41:55,190 --> 00:41:52,859
that um there was actually a group in

997
00:41:58,370 --> 00:41:55,200
Germany in the lead up to the Nazis

998
00:42:00,349 --> 00:41:58,380
they were called the ariosophers and uh

999
00:42:03,530 --> 00:42:00,359
they believed in um

1000
00:42:05,810 --> 00:42:03,540
that Aryans descended from angels and

1001
00:42:06,829 --> 00:42:05,820
that they were electrically driven and

1002
00:42:08,990 --> 00:42:06,839
that there was like a kind of free

1003
00:42:11,810 --> 00:42:09,000
energy in the atmosphere you find those

1004
00:42:14,390 --> 00:42:11,820
sorts of deeper yeah The Ether sure yeah

1005
00:42:16,250 --> 00:42:14,400
and um you find those sorts of tropes

1006
00:42:17,950 --> 00:42:16,260
these days and a lot of people don't

1007
00:42:20,810 --> 00:42:17,960
realize that some of them are actually

1008
00:42:23,150 --> 00:42:20,820
anti-semitic in nature because the idea

1009
00:42:24,770 --> 00:42:23,160
is that there's a pure Aryan energy

1010
00:42:26,750 --> 00:42:24,780
source and then there's the corrupted

1011
00:42:32,810 --> 00:42:26,760
fossil fuel

1012
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:35,569
yeah have you seen this Marina sarin

1013
00:42:39,890 --> 00:42:37,200
girl running around and what do you

1014
00:42:42,950 --> 00:42:39,900
think what do you think of her and her

1015
00:42:45,530 --> 00:42:42,960
very bold use of Nazi imagery to sell

1016
00:42:47,750 --> 00:42:45,540
her stories and not see Rewritten

1017
00:42:49,810 --> 00:42:47,760
history

1018
00:42:53,750 --> 00:42:49,820
it's idiotic

1019
00:42:55,670 --> 00:42:53,760
oh yeah we'll agree on that but I was

1020
00:42:58,010 --> 00:42:55,680
kind of shocked and surprised that she

1021
00:43:00,589 --> 00:42:58,020
was so bold in doing this like she

1022
00:43:03,230 --> 00:43:00,599
didn't see that this would be a problem

1023
00:43:05,150 --> 00:43:03,240
and apparently it's not because even all

1024
00:43:08,390 --> 00:43:05,160
the new age people like portal to

1025
00:43:10,130 --> 00:43:08,400
Ascension are hiring her for events and

1026
00:43:13,309 --> 00:43:10,140
I kind of think like this makes no sense

1027
00:43:16,990 --> 00:43:13,319
it's like love light and Nazis you know

1028
00:43:20,150 --> 00:43:17,000
like yeah they're the most motorists

1029
00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:20,160
no she she talks about the good Nazis

1030
00:43:26,750 --> 00:43:23,760
Lewis right the good SS she was a good

1031
00:43:27,829 --> 00:43:26,760
SS Nazi General in her previous life

1032
00:43:30,050 --> 00:43:27,839
somehow

1033
00:43:31,609 --> 00:43:30,060
good at yeah she was good at rounding up

1034
00:43:33,770 --> 00:43:31,619
Jews and sending them to concentration

1035
00:43:35,569 --> 00:43:33,780
camps that's the only thing what the SS

1036
00:43:37,250 --> 00:43:35,579
was for that's why I don't understand

1037
00:43:40,190 --> 00:43:37,260
this because

1038
00:43:43,730 --> 00:43:40,200
you know like it doesn't make any sense

1039
00:43:45,770 --> 00:43:43,740
to me but I could say you were an SS

1040
00:43:48,710 --> 00:43:45,780
Nazi General but you were one of the

1041
00:43:50,950 --> 00:43:48,720
good guys like that's not what they did

1042
00:43:53,569 --> 00:43:50,960
honey you know it doesn't make sense

1043
00:43:56,990 --> 00:43:53,579
there is a sense in which

1044
00:43:59,150 --> 00:43:57,000
um people can separate like the concrete

1045
00:44:01,370 --> 00:43:59,160
events of something

1046
00:44:05,770 --> 00:44:01,380
like the Nazi dictatorship

1047
00:44:09,230 --> 00:44:05,780
from a kind of symbolic

1048
00:44:11,210 --> 00:44:09,240
Transcendent meaning so for them the

1049
00:44:13,010 --> 00:44:11,220
reality is not the actual literal

1050
00:44:14,089 --> 00:44:13,020
reality it's like the highest symbolic

1051
00:44:16,430 --> 00:44:14,099
reality

1052
00:44:19,370 --> 00:44:16,440
and um this is something that we see a

1053
00:44:21,050 --> 00:44:19,380
lot in Nazi um esotericism where like

1054
00:44:23,690 --> 00:44:21,060
the Holocaust is sort of treated as a

1055
00:44:26,210 --> 00:44:23,700
numbers like a numerological thing not

1056
00:44:27,829 --> 00:44:26,220
as a human being suffering and being

1057
00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:27,839
tortured and so on

1058
00:44:33,050 --> 00:44:29,520
so I think something like that may be

1059
00:44:36,410 --> 00:44:33,060
going on a kind of detachment

1060
00:44:38,690 --> 00:44:36,420
yeah and and it's just she just likes

1061
00:44:41,150 --> 00:44:38,700
Nazi uniforms and things she just said

1062
00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:41,160
that on her uh yeah on her public

1063
00:44:47,390 --> 00:44:44,160
Twitter she posted something like I love

1064
00:44:50,150 --> 00:44:47,400
men in uniform and I posted a Nazi in a

1065
00:44:52,910 --> 00:44:50,160
Nazi uniform and said I think you prefer

1066
00:44:56,150 --> 00:44:52,920
these and she said I do it's Hugo Boss

1067
00:44:58,130 --> 00:44:56,160
after all like the boat I just was

1068
00:45:00,290 --> 00:44:58,140
surprised that she's so bold like I

1069
00:45:02,809 --> 00:45:00,300
thought that she was gonna have a come

1070
00:45:04,370 --> 00:45:02,819
to come to Jesus moment or something

1071
00:45:08,030 --> 00:45:04,380
when she was called out for all this

1072
00:45:10,190 --> 00:45:08,040
stuff and say like oh I I condemn Nazism

1073
00:45:13,010 --> 00:45:10,200
and you know I'm sorry for what I said

1074
00:45:15,170 --> 00:45:13,020
or you know I misunderstood history but

1075
00:45:17,809 --> 00:45:15,180
she's Dublin and tripling down there was

1076
00:45:20,809 --> 00:45:17,819
good Nazis and bad Nazis and they were

1077
00:45:22,010 --> 00:45:20,819
you know I don't know talking to aliens

1078
00:45:24,470 --> 00:45:22,020
and they

1079
00:45:26,690 --> 00:45:24,480
none of this makes any sense to me that

1080
00:45:29,030 --> 00:45:26,700
she would be at a new age conference

1081
00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:29,040
talking about this stuff with the love

1082
00:45:33,650 --> 00:45:31,200
and light hippie girls it doesn't make

1083
00:45:35,870 --> 00:45:33,660
sense well to be fair

1084
00:45:37,130 --> 00:45:35,880
um Linda Moulton Howe believes that the

1085
00:45:37,790 --> 00:45:37,140
alien

1086
00:45:39,650 --> 00:45:37,800
um

1087
00:45:41,569 --> 00:45:39,660
believes in a lot of that stuff as well

1088
00:45:44,450 --> 00:45:41,579
like frill

1089
00:45:47,690 --> 00:45:44,460
um you know Nazi UFOs and Antarctica

1090
00:45:49,609 --> 00:45:47,700
after the war and stuff like that so you

1091
00:45:52,190 --> 00:45:49,619
don't have to be a Nazi to believe in a

1092
00:45:53,930 --> 00:45:52,200
lot of that sort of Nazi UFO lore and

1093
00:45:55,550 --> 00:45:53,940
that might itself give some legitimacy

1094
00:45:57,230 --> 00:45:55,560
to people who do have fascist

1095
00:45:59,450 --> 00:45:57,240
inclinations to kind of be more bold

1096
00:46:00,829 --> 00:45:59,460
about what they believe because if other

1097
00:46:02,270 --> 00:46:00,839
people are saying it then it must be

1098
00:46:04,670 --> 00:46:02,280
true as well

1099
00:46:08,510 --> 00:46:04,680
yeah and what do you think I'm anxious

1100
00:46:11,630 --> 00:46:08,520
to ask you that actually I I'm very uh

1101
00:46:14,089 --> 00:46:11,640
you know what Joseph P Pharrell I I I

1102
00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:14,099
thought for a while that he did really

1103
00:46:21,410 --> 00:46:18,000
good work but then he he really promotes

1104
00:46:24,230 --> 00:46:21,420
this idea of Nazi Wonder Weapons and the

1105
00:46:26,329 --> 00:46:24,240
Honey Boo and yeah and then but when you

1106
00:46:28,550 --> 00:46:26,339
get to the actual evidence of it it's

1107
00:46:30,970 --> 00:46:28,560
almost non-existent and I've been able

1108
00:46:33,950 --> 00:46:30,980
to track down that a lot of it came from

1109
00:46:36,770 --> 00:46:33,960
tabloid newspapers after World War II

1110
00:46:39,290 --> 00:46:36,780
that were sort of wanting for there to

1111
00:46:41,630 --> 00:46:39,300
be a Resurgence of Nazism and Fascism

1112
00:46:44,390 --> 00:46:41,640
and they were sort of glorifying that

1113
00:46:48,170 --> 00:46:44,400
they had these super secret weapons and

1114
00:46:49,790 --> 00:46:48,180
but I don't see the actual evidence that

1115
00:46:52,010 --> 00:46:49,800
they had anything other than super

1116
00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:52,020
Advanced aircraft like jet fighters or

1117
00:46:57,230 --> 00:46:55,200
the flying wings you know yeah yeah and

1118
00:46:59,329 --> 00:46:57,240
actually you mentioned that this this

1119
00:47:02,569 --> 00:46:59,339
other book you should read

1120
00:47:05,089 --> 00:47:02,579
this is by SD Tucker Oh I do have I have

1121
00:47:06,890 --> 00:47:05,099
that book yeah yeah and you release

1122
00:47:08,569 --> 00:47:06,900
another book this year called um the

1123
00:47:10,670 --> 00:47:08,579
Sorcerer And the swastika which I really

1124
00:47:13,550 --> 00:47:10,680
recommend but this one is more about the

1125
00:47:15,410 --> 00:47:13,560
technical problems with the Nazi UFO

1126
00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:15,420
myth whereas the other one is about like

1127
00:47:19,970 --> 00:47:17,520
the the way right let's have used the

1128
00:47:22,910 --> 00:47:19,980
Mythos to promote their own ideology

1129
00:47:25,309 --> 00:47:22,920
yeah and actually it was that book and

1130
00:47:28,309 --> 00:47:25,319
Walter Bosley okay Walter Bosley relax

1131
00:47:30,530 --> 00:47:28,319
Walter Bosley is the person who who

1132
00:47:33,410 --> 00:47:30,540
pointed me in the direction of the real

1133
00:47:36,170 --> 00:47:33,420
information about where this whole

1134
00:47:38,990 --> 00:47:36,180
Mythos of Nazi flying saucers came from

1135
00:47:41,270 --> 00:47:39,000
it didn't come from history it came from

1136
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:41,280
tabloid newspapers and people that

1137
00:47:46,490 --> 00:47:43,920
wanted the Nazis to come back and and

1138
00:47:49,010 --> 00:47:46,500
research or you know the fourth Reich

1139
00:47:51,829 --> 00:47:49,020
people or or something like that and

1140
00:47:53,329 --> 00:47:51,839
also some Engineers who had worked for

1141
00:47:54,829 --> 00:47:53,339
the Third Reich

1142
00:47:56,569 --> 00:47:54,839
um they uh were trying to sort of

1143
00:47:58,790 --> 00:47:56,579
promote themselves as

1144
00:48:00,829 --> 00:47:58,800
these really smart engineers and so on

1145
00:48:03,349 --> 00:48:00,839
and maybe make some money from the story

1146
00:48:05,690 --> 00:48:03,359
as well yeah and maybe get out of the

1147
00:48:08,150 --> 00:48:05,700
firing line at Nuremberg I got some

1148
00:48:11,210 --> 00:48:08,160
secret Nazi technology take me to

1149
00:48:13,250 --> 00:48:11,220
paperclip you know yeah

1150
00:48:16,430 --> 00:48:13,260
especially in South America actually a

1151
00:48:18,710 --> 00:48:16,440
lot of Nazis and uh former Third Reich

1152
00:48:21,950 --> 00:48:18,720
um workers fled there and went to

1153
00:48:25,370 --> 00:48:21,960
Argentina mostly yes Brazil yeah

1154
00:48:29,089 --> 00:48:25,380
especially Argentina I would say

1155
00:48:31,490 --> 00:48:29,099
okay well doesn't Walter Bosley I have

1156
00:48:33,710 --> 00:48:31,500
to reread his books I read them

1157
00:48:35,450 --> 00:48:33,720
years ago I haven't read one of his

1158
00:48:38,210 --> 00:48:35,460
books in a long time but I'm sure that I

1159
00:48:40,670 --> 00:48:38,220
read one of his books on the Nazi

1160
00:48:44,270 --> 00:48:40,680
uh flying saucers and he seemed to

1161
00:48:47,210 --> 00:48:44,280
promote and uh you know even the Bell

1162
00:48:49,210 --> 00:48:47,220
Walter there's no actual real physical

1163
00:48:51,650 --> 00:48:49,220
evidence that that existed there's

1164
00:48:55,309 --> 00:48:51,660
tantalizing maybe evidence like well

1165
00:48:57,349 --> 00:48:55,319
they blew up the uh the this secret

1166
00:48:58,730 --> 00:48:57,359
underground base and they killed all the

1167
00:49:00,170 --> 00:48:58,740
scientists they killed lots of

1168
00:49:02,089 --> 00:49:00,180
scientists at the end of the war to

1169
00:49:03,950 --> 00:49:02,099
prevent their secrets from dripping out

1170
00:49:05,990 --> 00:49:03,960
it doesn't mean that we had a time they

1171
00:49:09,410 --> 00:49:06,000
had a time travel device

1172
00:49:11,870 --> 00:49:09,420
or any super exotic technology like that

1173
00:49:15,290 --> 00:49:11,880
and people go and they connect the Nazi

1174
00:49:17,870 --> 00:49:15,300
Bell to the Kecksburg incident which I

1175
00:49:19,670 --> 00:49:17,880
don't see a connection but okay there's

1176
00:49:22,790 --> 00:49:19,680
even a story of somebody getting out of

1177
00:49:25,450 --> 00:49:22,800
the Kecksburg UFO in a Nazi uniform

1178
00:49:27,770 --> 00:49:25,460
but it's a story and it

1179
00:49:29,630 --> 00:49:27,780
these stories always get total with the

1180
00:49:32,809 --> 00:49:29,640
telling all right Walter says the Honey

1181
00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:32,819
Boo is not like real technology but the

1182
00:49:39,530 --> 00:49:36,240
Bell was okay well we'll have you back

1183
00:49:44,750 --> 00:49:42,109
it was not real this is I don't think it

1184
00:49:47,390 --> 00:49:44,760
was all this like there was some project

1185
00:49:49,250 --> 00:49:47,400
oh okay no he's saying feral so so

1186
00:49:52,370 --> 00:49:49,260
Joseph P Pharrell thinks that the Bell

1187
00:49:55,250 --> 00:49:52,380
was real but not the Honey Boo okay well

1188
00:49:57,530 --> 00:49:55,260
that's fair but there are there are at

1189
00:50:00,170 --> 00:49:57,540
least 20 books Walter Bosley written on

1190
00:50:02,930 --> 00:50:00,180
the Nazi UFOs and flying saucers I know

1191
00:50:04,609 --> 00:50:02,940
because I own a bunch of the books I

1192
00:50:06,829 --> 00:50:04,619
probably own most of them I got a big

1193
00:50:09,890 --> 00:50:06,839
bookshelf and one section of them is all

1194
00:50:11,750 --> 00:50:09,900
Nazi Uso stuff and honestly every time I

1195
00:50:13,730 --> 00:50:11,760
see it on my bookshelf I feel like

1196
00:50:16,010 --> 00:50:13,740
throwing it out because I know that most

1197
00:50:25,069 --> 00:50:16,020
of that is not accurate information it's

1198
00:50:29,750 --> 00:50:27,470
yeah we're gonna have Walter Bosley back

1199
00:50:31,490 --> 00:50:29,760
so that he can both obasi loves to come

1200
00:50:33,190 --> 00:50:31,500
to my live chat and correct me about

1201
00:50:36,170 --> 00:50:33,200
everything I'm wrong about

1202
00:50:38,329 --> 00:50:36,180
but we like him doing that so it's good

1203
00:50:41,089 --> 00:50:38,339
he's one of the good guys right

1204
00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:41,099
what are you been what have you been uh

1205
00:50:46,370 --> 00:50:42,720
researching lately

1206
00:50:48,710 --> 00:50:46,380
Louis I'm curious but I know about your

1207
00:50:50,809 --> 00:50:48,720
uh Research into these early contactes

1208
00:50:53,150 --> 00:50:50,819
because I've been catching up on this uh

1209
00:50:55,130 --> 00:50:53,160
show you're doing with Leah but what

1210
00:50:58,250 --> 00:50:55,140
else are you really digging into because

1211
00:51:01,370 --> 00:50:58,260
for those unaware Lewis has an Inca

1212
00:51:03,950 --> 00:51:01,380
uncanny ability to really dig into a

1213
00:51:05,809 --> 00:51:03,960
subject and get to whether it's

1214
00:51:08,390 --> 00:51:05,819
whether there's something to it or

1215
00:51:11,210 --> 00:51:08,400
whether it's garbage

1216
00:51:13,250 --> 00:51:11,220
I'm looking at um skin walker

1217
00:51:15,230 --> 00:51:13,260
I'm trying to document all the technical

1218
00:51:17,450 --> 00:51:15,240
problems with it

1219
00:51:20,150 --> 00:51:17,460
so I'm trying to look at all the uh

1220
00:51:23,150 --> 00:51:20,160
media that they've put out and all the

1221
00:51:25,190 --> 00:51:23,160
sort of contradictions in their footage

1222
00:51:28,490 --> 00:51:25,200
uh for example you know you've got

1223
00:51:30,589 --> 00:51:28,500
footage of um Taylor and the other the

1224
00:51:33,109 --> 00:51:30,599
group supposedly investigating the

1225
00:51:34,910 --> 00:51:33,119
goings on there but like they'll say

1226
00:51:36,470 --> 00:51:34,920
something like oh the radiation level is

1227
00:51:38,270 --> 00:51:36,480
very high right now we have to get out

1228
00:51:40,270 --> 00:51:38,280
of here and then they'll just sort of

1229
00:51:43,790 --> 00:51:40,280
casually saunter away

1230
00:51:45,829 --> 00:51:43,800
that makes no sense right

1231
00:51:48,170 --> 00:51:45,839
well they'll say that the the uh

1232
00:51:50,990 --> 00:51:48,180
measuring equipment uh batteries have

1233
00:51:52,849 --> 00:51:51,000
suddenly failed and yet the camera

1234
00:51:55,490 --> 00:51:52,859
equipment that they're filming that with

1235
00:51:57,589 --> 00:51:55,500
doesn't fail

1236
00:52:00,230 --> 00:51:57,599
you know did you see that report by Jack

1237
00:52:03,109 --> 00:52:00,240
Brewer that the members of that TV show

1238
00:52:05,690 --> 00:52:03,119
got paid 150 000 for some kind of

1239
00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:05,700
Consulting work yeah and then near as I

1240
00:52:09,170 --> 00:52:07,440
can tell they didn't deliver anything

1241
00:52:11,210 --> 00:52:09,180
for the hundred and fifty thousand

1242
00:52:13,670 --> 00:52:11,220
dollars they received so that's a little

1243
00:52:15,770 --> 00:52:13,680
shady well more than a little that's

1244
00:52:17,990 --> 00:52:15,780
definitely Shady to me

1245
00:52:19,730 --> 00:52:18,000
well they do deliver something more

1246
00:52:21,770 --> 00:52:19,740
narratives which can be spun out for

1247
00:52:23,950 --> 00:52:21,780
more profit

1248
00:52:28,130 --> 00:52:23,960
that's always the what they can deliver

1249
00:52:30,950 --> 00:52:28,140
did you see the recent posts by uh by

1250
00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:30,960
Fugal about a cow died on the ranch the

1251
00:52:35,030 --> 00:52:32,640
problem that I have with Skinwalker is

1252
00:52:37,970 --> 00:52:35,040
that any regular event that happens

1253
00:52:40,750 --> 00:52:37,980
there gets hyped up and promoted as

1254
00:52:43,370 --> 00:52:40,760
something paranormal Supernatural or

1255
00:52:46,010 --> 00:52:43,380
otherworldly and you know I I don't know

1256
00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:46,020
I spent time on Farm as as a child you

1257
00:52:50,270 --> 00:52:46,880
know

1258
00:52:53,690 --> 00:52:50,280
cows die on on ranches all the time it's

1259
00:52:55,609 --> 00:52:53,700
not and and they get eaten by predators

1260
00:52:59,510 --> 00:52:55,619
and the Predators the small ones

1261
00:53:02,089 --> 00:52:59,520
especially coyotes and raccoons and they

1262
00:53:04,309 --> 00:53:02,099
they go for the soft fleshy Parts first

1263
00:53:06,829 --> 00:53:04,319
which is gross but it means lips

1264
00:53:09,589 --> 00:53:06,839
eyeballs and anuses is the first thing

1265
00:53:13,549 --> 00:53:09,599
to go from a cow that fell over dead

1266
00:53:15,770 --> 00:53:13,559
so and it looks like that's what

1267
00:53:17,750 --> 00:53:15,780
happened there to me it looks like a

1268
00:53:19,569 --> 00:53:17,760
predator fell over dead and a predator

1269
00:53:23,089 --> 00:53:19,579
started eating that saw fleshy Parts

1270
00:53:28,130 --> 00:53:23,099
they're out there with these Ghostbuster

1271
00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:28,140
backpacks you know like let's let's look

1272
00:53:33,170 --> 00:53:30,960
at this dead cow with our science

1273
00:53:35,690 --> 00:53:33,180
science devices

1274
00:53:37,790 --> 00:53:35,700
and but it also seems they have a

1275
00:53:40,549 --> 00:53:37,800
problem with follow-up like in other

1276
00:53:42,109 --> 00:53:40,559
words they'll put out some maybe claim

1277
00:53:43,790 --> 00:53:42,119
like like you said like well the

1278
00:53:46,609 --> 00:53:43,800
radiation levels are super high right

1279
00:53:48,890 --> 00:53:46,619
now and we never get the data we don't

1280
00:53:51,349 --> 00:53:48,900
get the the data from their

1281
00:53:54,589 --> 00:53:51,359
scientifically measured devices we don't

1282
00:53:56,809 --> 00:53:54,599
get any actual evidence that the claims

1283
00:53:59,329 --> 00:53:56,819
they put out are true and then they just

1284
00:54:02,150 --> 00:53:59,339
move on to the next thing like this cow

1285
00:54:03,770 --> 00:54:02,160
now like we didn't get the data from the

1286
00:54:06,109 --> 00:54:03,780
last thing that you were promoting as

1287
00:54:08,569 --> 00:54:06,119
Supernatural and now we're on to the

1288
00:54:09,950 --> 00:54:08,579
next thing I would but Skinwalker is

1289
00:54:12,049 --> 00:54:09,960
another one of those that I would love

1290
00:54:14,150 --> 00:54:12,059
to believe that there's some sort of you

1291
00:54:16,130 --> 00:54:14,160
know they'll be super cool paranormal

1292
00:54:18,710 --> 00:54:16,140
hot spots somewhere that you could go

1293
00:54:22,849 --> 00:54:18,720
One-Stop shop you could go see Bigfoot

1294
00:54:23,530 --> 00:54:22,859
and aliens and UFOs and apparently

1295
00:54:26,809 --> 00:54:23,540
um

1296
00:54:29,990 --> 00:54:26,819
werewolves too yeah and Dino beavers

1297
00:54:32,630 --> 00:54:30,000
Dino beavers is a big thing yeah

1298
00:54:35,329 --> 00:54:32,640
yeah I mean I think skin work is a

1299
00:54:36,890 --> 00:54:35,339
social phenomenon where it's like a

1300
00:54:39,410 --> 00:54:36,900
black hole everything gets sucked into

1301
00:54:41,270 --> 00:54:39,420
it and then

1302
00:54:43,190 --> 00:54:41,280
just these stories build on each other

1303
00:54:45,290 --> 00:54:43,200
and then people kind of come become

1304
00:54:47,150 --> 00:54:45,300
predisposed just like Steve long was

1305
00:54:49,490 --> 00:54:47,160
saying last week on your show that

1306
00:54:51,170 --> 00:54:49,500
people come to the ranch with um the

1307
00:54:54,290 --> 00:54:51,180
belief and then they're already

1308
00:54:57,950 --> 00:54:54,300
predisposed to misinterpreting things or

1309
00:55:00,410 --> 00:54:57,960
even having experiences potentially

1310
00:55:03,109 --> 00:55:00,420
and we never get the data as you said so

1311
00:55:06,290 --> 00:55:03,119
Bigelow you know when he hands it off uh

1312
00:55:07,790 --> 00:55:06,300
skin walker to Frugal he said that he

1313
00:55:09,710 --> 00:55:07,800
wasn't going to give him any of the data

1314
00:55:11,690 --> 00:55:09,720
that he had collected

1315
00:55:14,210 --> 00:55:11,700
and then now Frugal is basically doing

1316
00:55:18,349 --> 00:55:14,220
the same thing but in slow motion just

1317
00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:18,359
drawing out this um reality TV show

1318
00:55:24,230 --> 00:55:21,599
yeah and it's interesting to me uh

1319
00:55:28,430 --> 00:55:24,240
because you know maybe I'm too skeptical

1320
00:55:31,130 --> 00:55:28,440
but uh I want to know like you know

1321
00:55:33,349 --> 00:55:31,140
Louis if you or I had control of that

1322
00:55:35,809 --> 00:55:33,359
ranch and we had the resources to hire

1323
00:55:38,569 --> 00:55:35,819
people to help us investigate

1324
00:55:40,609 --> 00:55:38,579
you know like how many seasons of a

1325
00:55:42,770 --> 00:55:40,619
television show do they need

1326
00:55:44,750 --> 00:55:42,780
you know it's it would seem to me that

1327
00:55:47,870 --> 00:55:44,760
within six months you would be able to

1328
00:55:50,150 --> 00:55:47,880
investigate yeah and find out if there's

1329
00:55:52,609 --> 00:55:50,160
anything to all these claims

1330
00:55:54,589 --> 00:55:52,619
and come to some conclusions but we

1331
00:55:56,990 --> 00:55:54,599
never get there it's always like I said

1332
00:55:59,329 --> 00:55:57,000
it's you like you said it's true are

1333
00:56:01,730 --> 00:55:59,339
they just drawing it out to keep the

1334
00:56:04,430 --> 00:56:01,740
television show on

1335
00:56:06,530 --> 00:56:04,440
it must be I mean

1336
00:56:08,690 --> 00:56:06,540
they would have shown us the data by now

1337
00:56:10,250 --> 00:56:08,700
I guess if they had something

1338
00:56:12,349 --> 00:56:10,260
so

1339
00:56:14,450 --> 00:56:12,359
what's the excuse they use though that

1340
00:56:17,630 --> 00:56:14,460
um it's too dangerous to release I think

1341
00:56:22,670 --> 00:56:20,390
up to three seasons of The Secret of

1342
00:56:26,329 --> 00:56:22,680
Skinwalker Ranch so he three years of

1343
00:56:28,849 --> 00:56:26,339
Investigation zero actual data that I'm

1344
00:56:31,849 --> 00:56:28,859
aware of has been released publicly but

1345
00:56:34,130 --> 00:56:31,859
it can Louis you can sign up for members

1346
00:56:36,349 --> 00:56:34,140
only access on the website

1347
00:56:38,750 --> 00:56:36,359
and then I think they do put some kind

1348
00:56:40,130 --> 00:56:38,760
of charts and graphs out of stuff

1349
00:56:42,230 --> 00:56:40,140
which

1350
00:56:45,230 --> 00:56:42,240
I guess they're monetizing their

1351
00:56:47,510 --> 00:56:45,240
curiosity I I don't know it's like

1352
00:56:52,730 --> 00:56:47,520
transparent it's like um disclosure but

1353
00:56:56,329 --> 00:56:54,950
is Steve Young is here and says all who

1354
00:56:58,069 --> 00:56:56,339
visit the ranch or work there have

1355
00:57:00,890 --> 00:56:58,079
already heard all the ghost stories

1356
00:57:02,809 --> 00:57:00,900
they're tainted and predisposed I'm

1357
00:57:05,450 --> 00:57:02,819
anxious to see what green Street's gonna

1358
00:57:07,250 --> 00:57:05,460
find because he ended his last piece

1359
00:57:10,670 --> 00:57:07,260
with a cliffhanger and the Cliffhanger

1360
00:57:12,829 --> 00:57:10,680
is that he's there now so I think he's

1361
00:57:15,589 --> 00:57:12,839
going to release whatever he his

1362
00:57:17,270 --> 00:57:15,599
opinions are after The Next Episode or

1363
00:57:19,490 --> 00:57:17,280
in the next episode

1364
00:57:21,290 --> 00:57:19,500
he seems to be very very skeptical

1365
00:57:22,970 --> 00:57:21,300
especially of all the George Knapp stuff

1366
00:57:25,430 --> 00:57:22,980
because George Knapp

1367
00:57:27,349 --> 00:57:25,440
wrote a book that said it was based on

1368
00:57:29,390 --> 00:57:27,359
all the scientific evidence and that he

1369
00:57:30,890 --> 00:57:29,400
produced no evidence just stories and

1370
00:57:33,710 --> 00:57:30,900
then when Rogan asked him if there's

1371
00:57:35,450 --> 00:57:33,720
evidence he said well there's no you

1372
00:57:39,069 --> 00:57:35,460
know if you if you want nuts and bolts

1373
00:57:41,150 --> 00:57:39,079
actual evidence there is none so

1374
00:57:43,790 --> 00:57:41,160
I don't get it

1375
00:57:46,510 --> 00:57:43,800
there's also the uh that thing that they

1376
00:57:49,010 --> 00:57:46,520
keep talking about The Hitchhiker effect

1377
00:57:50,450 --> 00:57:49,020
you know like the Paranormal occurrences

1378
00:57:53,210 --> 00:57:50,460
follow you around

1379
00:57:55,730 --> 00:57:53,220
but it seems to me like just just as uh

1380
00:57:58,309 --> 00:57:55,740
with what Steve long just said that they

1381
00:58:00,290 --> 00:57:58,319
come to the ranch tainted

1382
00:58:02,390 --> 00:58:00,300
um and predisposed so if anything it's

1383
00:58:04,370 --> 00:58:02,400
the reverse they don't leave with a

1384
00:58:05,870 --> 00:58:04,380
hitchhiker they come with those ideas

1385
00:58:07,790 --> 00:58:05,880
already there

1386
00:58:10,309 --> 00:58:07,800
and um

1387
00:58:13,730 --> 00:58:10,319
that's kind of the direction

1388
00:58:16,250 --> 00:58:13,740
of causality I think

1389
00:58:18,170 --> 00:58:16,260
yeah and Chuck says get Erica Luke's

1390
00:58:20,809 --> 00:58:18,180
pissed off she does hundreds of shows on

1391
00:58:23,030 --> 00:58:20,819
you she's not a fan of Skinwalker but

1392
00:58:24,650 --> 00:58:23,040
she dated that or if she was married to

1393
00:58:28,309 --> 00:58:24,660
that guy that was one of the security

1394
00:58:30,829 --> 00:58:28,319
people Christmas yeah and she seems to

1395
00:58:33,710 --> 00:58:30,839
think that it's all just a profit-driven

1396
00:58:35,030 --> 00:58:33,720
uh Carnival that there's nothing to it

1397
00:58:37,309 --> 00:58:35,040
whatsoever

1398
00:58:39,109 --> 00:58:37,319
and uh it's interesting that she was so

1399
00:58:41,030 --> 00:58:39,119
close to somebody who worked there and

1400
00:58:43,130 --> 00:58:41,040
and believes that it's a profit-driven

1401
00:58:45,230 --> 00:58:43,140
carnival with nothing to it

1402
00:58:49,430 --> 00:58:45,240
and of course I'm paraphrasing she's not

1403
00:58:52,250 --> 00:58:49,440
said that but that's my that's my uh you

1404
00:58:53,930 --> 00:58:52,260
know uh boiling down of the things that

1405
00:58:56,329 --> 00:58:53,940
she has said about it

1406
00:58:58,670 --> 00:58:56,339
because it's just that that people want

1407
00:59:01,250 --> 00:58:58,680
to believe this stuff right is it is it

1408
00:59:02,809 --> 00:59:01,260
a fun TV show I can't get through a

1409
00:59:05,450 --> 00:59:02,819
whole episode because I just start

1410
00:59:07,430 --> 00:59:05,460
screaming at my television

1411
00:59:09,710 --> 00:59:07,440
it must be fun

1412
00:59:12,289 --> 00:59:09,720
um for many people to believe that

1413
00:59:14,569 --> 00:59:12,299
there's this uh maybe break in the

1414
00:59:18,289 --> 00:59:14,579
space-time Continuum or something like

1415
00:59:20,990 --> 00:59:18,299
that this beastiary of strange creatures

1416
00:59:22,670 --> 00:59:21,000
which um something about it just

1417
00:59:23,750 --> 00:59:22,680
resonates I guess I can sort of feel it

1418
00:59:26,690 --> 00:59:23,760
as well

1419
00:59:28,930 --> 00:59:26,700
uh you know this this uh place where

1420
00:59:31,789 --> 00:59:28,940
there's werewolves and things like that

1421
00:59:33,829 --> 00:59:31,799
uh jumping through portals I find that

1422
00:59:37,190 --> 00:59:33,839
fairly evocative

1423
00:59:38,990 --> 00:59:37,200
and there's dog men that that stand with

1424
00:59:41,210 --> 00:59:39,000
their arms crossed smoking cigarettes

1425
00:59:45,109 --> 00:59:41,220
too accordingly

1426
00:59:46,730 --> 00:59:45,119
this is our story like there was two two

1427
00:59:48,289 --> 00:59:46,740
people standing there but they had the

1428
00:59:50,210 --> 00:59:48,299
heads of dogs and they were smoking

1429
00:59:52,849 --> 00:59:50,220
cigarettes and George Knapp says all

1430
00:59:54,049 --> 00:59:52,859
this with like a totally straight face

1431
00:59:56,809 --> 00:59:54,059
like

1432
00:59:59,329 --> 00:59:56,819
you know but yeah it could also be um

1433
01:00:01,309 --> 00:59:59,339
who was it who said this um somebody who

1434
01:00:05,930 --> 01:00:01,319
was on

1435
01:00:10,730 --> 01:00:07,670
who was that

1436
01:00:13,130 --> 01:00:10,740
um they said that um

1437
01:00:15,410 --> 01:00:13,140
oh it was a great Bishop he said that

1438
01:00:17,569 --> 01:00:15,420
there's an aspect of like I told you so

1439
01:00:20,630 --> 01:00:17,579
so a lot of people just want to be

1440
01:00:23,210 --> 01:00:20,640
able to say I told you so about UFOs and

1441
01:00:25,490 --> 01:00:23,220
paranormal stuff so it's not really an

1442
01:00:27,170 --> 01:00:25,500
interest so much in the phenomena it's

1443
01:00:29,510 --> 01:00:27,180
more that they can just

1444
01:00:31,789 --> 01:00:29,520
get the high the emotional high of

1445
01:00:32,990 --> 01:00:31,799
saying I Told You So and some other

1446
01:00:35,930 --> 01:00:33,000
people

1447
01:00:36,890 --> 01:00:35,940
enjoy the idea that they are in on the

1448
01:00:38,750 --> 01:00:36,900
secret

1449
01:00:40,309 --> 01:00:38,760
that they've got this kind of

1450
01:00:41,870 --> 01:00:40,319
um privileged knowledge about something

1451
01:00:44,150 --> 01:00:41,880
that the scientific Community doesn't

1452
01:00:47,990 --> 01:00:44,160
want to accept I think that's also

1453
01:00:49,730 --> 01:00:48,000
probably a psychological driver in this

1454
01:00:52,130 --> 01:00:49,740
and I think you're right because a lot

1455
01:00:54,530 --> 01:00:52,140
of people want to be want to be able to

1456
01:00:56,390 --> 01:00:54,540
tell people like see I'm not crazy I was

1457
01:00:58,370 --> 01:00:56,400
right about this like I'm aware of many

1458
01:01:00,190 --> 01:00:58,380
many different people when that 2016

1459
01:01:02,329 --> 01:01:00,200
article came out in the New York Times

1460
01:01:04,309 --> 01:01:02,339
They would like take it to their friends

1461
01:01:06,410 --> 01:01:04,319
or family member or neighbors or

1462
01:01:09,049 --> 01:01:06,420
whatever and say see I told you I wasn't

1463
01:01:11,569 --> 01:01:09,059
crazy the government just said UFOs are

1464
01:01:13,010 --> 01:01:11,579
real and that to me seemed ridiculous

1465
01:01:14,690 --> 01:01:13,020
because of course there's something

1466
01:01:18,410 --> 01:01:14,700
flying around in the sky that people

1467
01:01:19,910 --> 01:01:18,420
can't identify but you know and you're

1468
01:01:22,309 --> 01:01:19,920
right they want to confirmed so maybe

1469
01:01:23,950 --> 01:01:22,319
people go there and they think they see

1470
01:01:26,390 --> 01:01:23,960
something and then they could say yeah

1471
01:01:28,609 --> 01:01:26,400
oh Steve long said it better than me

1472
01:01:30,890 --> 01:01:28,619
personal validation that's what it is

1473
01:01:32,690 --> 01:01:30,900
personal validation

1474
01:01:35,150 --> 01:01:32,700
and there's also an anti-government

1475
01:01:37,130 --> 01:01:35,160
sentiment which is very

1476
01:01:39,770 --> 01:01:37,140
prevalent in the U.S maybe more than

1477
01:01:41,510 --> 01:01:39,780
other Western democracies

1478
01:01:43,910 --> 01:01:41,520
um and it's also it also explains why

1479
01:01:46,730 --> 01:01:43,920
UFO conspiracy theories are so prevalent

1480
01:01:49,430 --> 01:01:46,740
in the US over the decades

1481
01:01:51,770 --> 01:01:49,440
uh that people want the government to be

1482
01:01:53,089 --> 01:01:51,780
lying to them for some weird reason

1483
01:01:54,349 --> 01:01:53,099
like obviously we know that the

1484
01:01:56,510 --> 01:01:54,359
government has lied about a lot of

1485
01:01:58,010 --> 01:01:56,520
things but some people just have a need

1486
01:02:00,589 --> 01:01:58,020
to believe that the government is lying

1487
01:02:02,990 --> 01:02:00,599
about absolutely everything

1488
01:02:05,990 --> 01:02:03,000
well I kind of live my life thinking

1489
01:02:08,150 --> 01:02:06,000
that they are just because then I don't

1490
01:02:11,150 --> 01:02:08,160
get disappointed I don't know about you

1491
01:02:14,750 --> 01:02:11,160
like you're from the UK right Australia

1492
01:02:17,210 --> 01:02:14,760
Australia I'm sorry uh you know what it

1493
01:02:19,970 --> 01:02:17,220
is is you don't have a real thick accent

1494
01:02:21,730 --> 01:02:19,980
so it's hard to you know people think

1495
01:02:24,829 --> 01:02:21,740
I'm from the UK

1496
01:02:26,390 --> 01:02:24,839
but you boy you guys really had a tough

1497
01:02:28,849 --> 01:02:26,400
time with that pandemic and the

1498
01:02:31,670 --> 01:02:28,859
lockdowns do you since you're from

1499
01:02:33,170 --> 01:02:31,680
Australia and at the risk of uh getting

1500
01:02:35,510 --> 01:02:33,180
stamped off of YouTube don't you think

1501
01:02:37,970 --> 01:02:35,520
it's a little coincidental that they

1502
01:02:39,650 --> 01:02:37,980
took the guns away from you guys and

1503
01:02:42,230 --> 01:02:39,660
then they got real

1504
01:02:44,089 --> 01:02:42,240
fascist with the government enforcing

1505
01:02:46,190 --> 01:02:44,099
all kinds of mandates and rules and

1506
01:02:48,650 --> 01:02:46,200
regulations

1507
01:02:49,970 --> 01:02:48,660
I think that the the separation in time

1508
01:02:52,490 --> 01:02:49,980
was

1509
01:02:54,349 --> 01:02:52,500
too great for that to I mean I wouldn't

1510
01:02:56,750 --> 01:02:54,359
go to that conclusion I'm not saying

1511
01:02:59,150 --> 01:02:56,760
they did it as a plan but it just seems

1512
01:03:00,829 --> 01:02:59,160
coincidental to me that they they've

1513
01:03:04,130 --> 01:03:00,839
never been that

1514
01:03:06,650 --> 01:03:04,140
sort of fascist with their population

1515
01:03:09,049 --> 01:03:06,660
but then they took the guns away and I

1516
01:03:11,390 --> 01:03:09,059
think me I I remember thinking that

1517
01:03:12,950 --> 01:03:11,400
maybe they they know now like what are

1518
01:03:14,750 --> 01:03:12,960
you going to do you can't rise up

1519
01:03:17,109 --> 01:03:14,760
against the government if you're unarmed

1520
01:03:19,789 --> 01:03:17,119
so they have a little more

1521
01:03:21,829 --> 01:03:19,799
authority to be able to Jam these things

1522
01:03:24,890 --> 01:03:21,839
down people's throats right

1523
01:03:27,230 --> 01:03:24,900
there could be an element of that yeah

1524
01:03:28,910 --> 01:03:27,240
what do you guys do about hunting in

1525
01:03:30,289 --> 01:03:28,920
your country now are you allowed to have

1526
01:03:31,730 --> 01:03:30,299
you're not even allowed to have a

1527
01:03:33,410 --> 01:03:31,740
hunting rifle

1528
01:03:35,450 --> 01:03:33,420
no I think you can

1529
01:03:38,930 --> 01:03:35,460
um you need a license you can only kill

1530
01:03:40,730 --> 01:03:38,940
one deal or whatever per year

1531
01:03:42,530 --> 01:03:40,740
and stuff like that

1532
01:03:44,930 --> 01:03:42,540
um I mean there are many regulations on

1533
01:03:47,990 --> 01:03:44,940
hunting but I think you can still

1534
01:03:51,650 --> 01:03:48,000
own a hunting rifle but handguns are

1535
01:03:54,109 --> 01:03:51,660
totally banned yes and uh automatic

1536
01:03:56,630 --> 01:03:54,119
weapons and those sorts of shotguns I

1537
01:03:58,549 --> 01:03:56,640
think are also banned this was after the

1538
01:04:00,770 --> 01:03:58,559
Port Arthur Massacre which happened in

1539
01:04:04,609 --> 01:04:00,780
the night oh yeah yeah and to be honest

1540
01:04:06,890 --> 01:04:04,619
I I still am on the fence about what to

1541
01:04:08,990 --> 01:04:06,900
do about it because I certainly I don't

1542
01:04:12,049 --> 01:04:09,000
know I believe in the right to bear arms

1543
01:04:14,030 --> 01:04:12,059
but I also see that the this Insanity

1544
01:04:15,890 --> 01:04:14,040
that goes on in the United States with

1545
01:04:18,470 --> 01:04:15,900
like somebody walking into a church or a

1546
01:04:21,829 --> 01:04:18,480
synagogue or wherever and and killing 30

1547
01:04:23,150 --> 01:04:21,839
people they got to do something but yeah

1548
01:04:25,789 --> 01:04:23,160
yeah for sure

1549
01:04:27,950 --> 01:04:25,799
but the problem that I see Lewis is that

1550
01:04:29,630 --> 01:04:27,960
people who are intent on doing harm are

1551
01:04:31,970 --> 01:04:29,640
not going to stop just because it's a

1552
01:04:34,670 --> 01:04:31,980
it's against the law obviously murders

1553
01:04:37,250 --> 01:04:34,680
against the law so you know it's it's a

1554
01:04:39,770 --> 01:04:37,260
complicated situation right right I

1555
01:04:41,990 --> 01:04:39,780
would at least um be in favor of some

1556
01:04:44,150 --> 01:04:42,000
sensible restrictions on people who are

1557
01:04:46,789 --> 01:04:44,160
clearly Psychopaths that they've got

1558
01:04:49,549 --> 01:04:46,799
psychological issues which are very you

1559
01:04:52,370 --> 01:04:49,559
know verified by a medical uh a

1560
01:04:54,950 --> 01:04:52,380
psychologist or somebody sure yeah I'm

1561
01:04:55,910 --> 01:04:54,960
all for that I'm all for sure I'm all

1562
01:04:58,789 --> 01:04:55,920
for more

1563
01:05:01,069 --> 01:04:58,799
for better and more background checks

1564
01:05:02,809 --> 01:05:01,079
because if you're you know like me like

1565
01:05:04,370 --> 01:05:02,819
I don't have any criminal background or

1566
01:05:06,349 --> 01:05:04,380
history of mental illness I don't care

1567
01:05:08,450 --> 01:05:06,359
check whatever you want to check but and

1568
01:05:10,190 --> 01:05:08,460
take a week if you need to but if I want

1569
01:05:11,990 --> 01:05:10,200
a gun I should be able to get it you

1570
01:05:17,270 --> 01:05:12,000
know

1571
01:05:19,849 --> 01:05:17,280
really clamped down on that uh over the

1572
01:05:22,730 --> 01:05:19,859
over the Health crisis with a lot of

1573
01:05:24,530 --> 01:05:22,740
rules and regulations you know

1574
01:05:25,970 --> 01:05:24,540
yeah I think they went too far on

1575
01:05:28,609 --> 01:05:25,980
certain things

1576
01:05:32,030 --> 01:05:28,619
um the police sometimes sometimes the

1577
01:05:33,410 --> 01:05:32,040
police um responses are polling

1578
01:05:35,809 --> 01:05:33,420
um you know towards people who were not

1579
01:05:38,450 --> 01:05:35,819
wearing I've seen the videos yeah

1580
01:05:40,730 --> 01:05:38,460
yeah although like I don't think that

1581
01:05:43,190 --> 01:05:40,740
that was the plan or anything but I just

1582
01:05:44,950 --> 01:05:43,200
think that um in that environment the

1583
01:05:47,809 --> 01:05:44,960
police can sometimes feel like they're

1584
01:05:49,250 --> 01:05:47,819
immune from scrutiny and they can do

1585
01:05:51,950 --> 01:05:49,260
whatever they want I think that's very

1586
01:05:55,309 --> 01:05:51,960
very toxic

1587
01:05:59,089 --> 01:05:55,319
yeah and let me let me ask you over

1588
01:06:01,130 --> 01:05:59,099
there because I I you know I I find it

1589
01:06:03,230 --> 01:06:01,140
interesting people from England tell me

1590
01:06:04,910 --> 01:06:03,240
that like all the UFO stuff is coming

1591
01:06:07,370 --> 01:06:04,920
out of the United States we got like

1592
01:06:09,530 --> 01:06:07,380
almost nothing here is it the same in

1593
01:06:11,690 --> 01:06:09,540
Australia you guys have your own

1594
01:06:14,329 --> 01:06:11,700
sightings and shows and things like that

1595
01:06:17,089 --> 01:06:14,339
or is this mostly imported from the

1596
01:06:19,490 --> 01:06:17,099
United States for you guys let me just

1597
01:06:22,370 --> 01:06:19,500
first mention that I live in California

1598
01:06:24,770 --> 01:06:22,380
um oh I'm sorry yeah but um

1599
01:06:26,990 --> 01:06:24,780
no but I mean back in the 90s when I was

1600
01:06:29,029 --> 01:06:27,000
a teenager I used to watch a lot of uh

1601
01:06:31,190 --> 01:06:29,039
UFO documentaries and I watched The

1602
01:06:32,410 --> 01:06:31,200
X-Files and it was mostly imported from

1603
01:06:37,309 --> 01:06:32,420
the US

1604
01:06:39,650 --> 01:06:37,319
culturally but um there have been a lot

1605
01:06:42,589 --> 01:06:39,660
of UFO cases in Australia you know

1606
01:06:44,029 --> 01:06:42,599
famously the westall case but also many

1607
01:06:47,029 --> 01:06:44,039
others

1608
01:06:49,789 --> 01:06:47,039
um but I think that mostly the UFO

1609
01:06:52,010 --> 01:06:49,799
phenomena is experienced by the general

1610
01:06:53,870 --> 01:06:52,020
population as like a thing coming from

1611
01:06:55,549 --> 01:06:53,880
the US you know what they know about

1612
01:06:57,410 --> 01:06:55,559
UFOs is mostly

1613
01:07:00,230 --> 01:06:57,420
you know what they've heard about Area

1614
01:07:02,089 --> 01:07:00,240
51 stories and stuff like that

1615
01:07:05,029 --> 01:07:02,099
or from the X-Files which was very

1616
01:07:08,529 --> 01:07:05,039
popular back in the day

1617
01:07:11,990 --> 01:07:08,539
yeah that's interesting

1618
01:07:14,809 --> 01:07:12,000
a few news programs and

1619
01:07:17,569 --> 01:07:14,819
uh specials about UFO cases in Australia

1620
01:07:20,390 --> 01:07:17,579
but they weren't that common

1621
01:07:24,230 --> 01:07:20,400
well now you guys have uh Ross colthard

1622
01:07:27,890 --> 01:07:24,240
on News 7 and he's prom in his last

1623
01:07:30,589 --> 01:07:27,900
promos he said he had quote definitive

1624
01:07:33,950 --> 01:07:30,599
proof of alien technology all confirmed

1625
01:07:35,329 --> 01:07:33,960
by this man cut to Michio Kaku and it

1626
01:07:38,329 --> 01:07:35,339
turns out that he didn't have anything

1627
01:07:41,569 --> 01:07:38,339
what do you think of this guy uh he's a

1628
01:07:42,710 --> 01:07:41,579
fellow country man right yeah I read his

1629
01:07:44,809 --> 01:07:42,720
book

1630
01:07:46,670 --> 01:07:44,819
um in plain sight I thought it was well

1631
01:07:48,170 --> 01:07:46,680
written as you would expect you know you

1632
01:07:50,870 --> 01:07:48,180
would hope a journalist can write a good

1633
01:07:52,849 --> 01:07:50,880
book a well-written book

1634
01:07:55,370 --> 01:07:52,859
um even though I think it was way too

1635
01:07:57,710 --> 01:07:55,380
naive I think it was just basically

1636
01:08:00,289 --> 01:07:57,720
throwing everything against the wall and

1637
01:08:01,970 --> 01:08:00,299
hoping that's something yeah and he

1638
01:08:04,430 --> 01:08:01,980
seems to be doing a weird thing with a

1639
01:08:06,230 --> 01:08:04,440
lot of the cases which was he would lean

1640
01:08:08,390 --> 01:08:06,240
into them and then sort of back away a

1641
01:08:10,309 --> 01:08:08,400
little bit and then lean into them again

1642
01:08:12,109 --> 01:08:10,319
and you were kind of left wondering well

1643
01:08:13,730 --> 01:08:12,119
do you think this is a legit case or

1644
01:08:16,370 --> 01:08:13,740
also do you not think

1645
01:08:18,829 --> 01:08:16,380
and then it's kind of left to the

1646
01:08:21,470 --> 01:08:18,839
the reader to kind of decide or decipher

1647
01:08:23,030 --> 01:08:21,480
what he thinks and um

1648
01:08:25,370 --> 01:08:23,040
I don't know I think that's not a

1649
01:08:27,650 --> 01:08:25,380
particularly useful approach

1650
01:08:30,309 --> 01:08:27,660
do you do you think because maybe I

1651
01:08:33,470 --> 01:08:30,319
wonder if I'm being too harsh on him but

1652
01:08:37,209 --> 01:08:33,480
do you think that when you put in the

1653
01:08:40,309 --> 01:08:37,219
your promos for a monetized video

1654
01:08:42,470 --> 01:08:40,319
statements that are obviously false like

1655
01:08:43,849 --> 01:08:42,480
we have definitive proof of alien

1656
01:08:45,950 --> 01:08:43,859
technology

1657
01:08:48,430 --> 01:08:45,960
and these are promos designed to point

1658
01:08:51,229 --> 01:08:48,440
people to click on your monetized video

1659
01:08:53,749 --> 01:08:51,239
do you consider that that is a form of

1660
01:08:56,090 --> 01:08:53,759
fraud or am I being too harsh because I

1661
01:08:59,209 --> 01:08:56,100
think it's fraud yeah I think it's

1662
01:09:04,189 --> 01:08:59,219
Consumer Fraud good yeah we'll agree on

1663
01:09:07,249 --> 01:09:04,199
that yeah because by the way uh I I have

1664
01:09:10,189 --> 01:09:07,259
asked for an interview with Gary Nolan

1665
01:09:13,550 --> 01:09:10,199
many many times and he would never come

1666
01:09:16,249 --> 01:09:13,560
on my show and now he is doing smaller

1667
01:09:18,229 --> 01:09:16,259
shows that have numbers weight far less

1668
01:09:19,910 --> 01:09:18,239
than me

1669
01:09:22,309 --> 01:09:19,920
um and I'm aware I don't know if it's

1670
01:09:24,769 --> 01:09:22,319
somewhere in the skies podcast or

1671
01:09:27,229 --> 01:09:24,779
Chrissy Newton with the debrief is going

1672
01:09:30,530 --> 01:09:27,239
to do one of those two I'm not sure if

1673
01:09:32,930 --> 01:09:30,540
it's if those two together on Ryan's

1674
01:09:35,329 --> 01:09:32,940
show or if it's her herself on the

1675
01:09:37,490 --> 01:09:35,339
debrief show she does she's going to

1676
01:09:39,530 --> 01:09:37,500
interview Gary Nolan

1677
01:09:42,470 --> 01:09:39,540
and she asked what questions should be

1678
01:09:45,169 --> 01:09:42,480
asked and I told her and I'm saying this

1679
01:09:47,150 --> 01:09:45,179
publicly she has to Ask Gary Nolan why

1680
01:09:50,150 --> 01:09:47,160
he participated and what can only be

1681
01:09:53,329 --> 01:09:50,160
described as a scam with Ross coltar

1682
01:09:55,610 --> 01:09:53,339
he didn't stand up and say anything but

1683
01:09:58,010 --> 01:09:55,620
it turns out that that definitive proof

1684
01:10:00,050 --> 01:09:58,020
of alien technology that Ross culpart is

1685
01:10:02,570 --> 01:10:00,060
promising everybody was supposed to come

1686
01:10:05,689 --> 01:10:02,580
from Gary Nolan analyzing these ball

1687
01:10:07,669 --> 01:10:05,699
shavings and I got from Gary Nolan right

1688
01:10:08,990 --> 01:10:07,679
before he blocked me for asking him a

1689
01:10:12,590 --> 01:10:09,000
hard question

1690
01:10:15,709 --> 01:10:12,600
that he had not even begun the materials

1691
01:10:18,950 --> 01:10:15,719
analysis on those fragments before Ross

1692
01:10:21,530 --> 01:10:18,960
called broadcast both the promos and the

1693
01:10:23,990 --> 01:10:21,540
peace promising alien technology when

1694
01:10:25,910 --> 01:10:24,000
there were zero evidence or proof so

1695
01:10:29,450 --> 01:10:25,920
that's sort of twice now that Gary P

1696
01:10:33,050 --> 01:10:29,460
Nolan has been involved in a way way

1697
01:10:34,910 --> 01:10:33,060
over hyped supposed proof of aliens he

1698
01:10:36,350 --> 01:10:34,920
did it with Greer with that Atacama

1699
01:10:39,169 --> 01:10:36,360
human weight and now he's done it with

1700
01:10:41,030 --> 01:10:39,179
Ross goldthard and you know everybody

1701
01:10:43,970 --> 01:10:41,040
that interviews him doesn't ask him

1702
01:10:45,830 --> 01:10:43,980
these questions because you know it's a

1703
01:10:47,330 --> 01:10:45,840
game you have to do the softball you

1704
01:10:48,770 --> 01:10:47,340
can't ask him about that because he

1705
01:10:51,110 --> 01:10:48,780
might get pissed off or he might not

1706
01:10:53,090 --> 01:10:51,120
like that but I think that's twice now

1707
01:10:56,630 --> 01:10:53,100
Gary Nolan has been involved in very

1708
01:10:58,610 --> 01:10:56,640
very questionable money scams to collect

1709
01:11:01,669 --> 01:10:58,620
money from the public for alien for

1710
01:11:04,250 --> 01:11:01,679
proof of aliens or alien technology I

1711
01:11:06,590 --> 01:11:04,260
think she should ask him about that why

1712
01:11:09,050 --> 01:11:06,600
did he sit and not say anything when he

1713
01:11:10,970 --> 01:11:09,060
saw those promos coming out he knew he

1714
01:11:13,970 --> 01:11:10,980
didn't even start the analysis so there

1715
01:11:17,630 --> 01:11:13,980
couldn't be proof yet mm-hmm and by the

1716
01:11:19,310 --> 01:11:17,640
way I will go out on the limb Lewis and

1717
01:11:21,350 --> 01:11:19,320
tell you that those metal shavings are

1718
01:11:24,890 --> 01:11:21,360
going to come back as normal Earthly

1719
01:11:27,590 --> 01:11:24,900
Metals nothing alien or special about

1720
01:11:29,330 --> 01:11:27,600
yes they were just um there was a

1721
01:11:32,870 --> 01:11:29,340
previous case involving these giant

1722
01:11:36,290 --> 01:11:32,880
metal bowls from the 70s I think uh the

1723
01:11:38,510 --> 01:11:36,300
bets feel yes I I have I have that in a

1724
01:11:40,070 --> 01:11:38,520
book actually and there's a guy on

1725
01:11:42,830 --> 01:11:40,080
Twitter I can't remember his name that

1726
01:11:45,410 --> 01:11:42,840
is promoting these spheres constantly he

1727
01:11:46,430 --> 01:11:45,420
was one of Ross's sources for this whole

1728
01:11:49,310 --> 01:11:46,440
story

1729
01:11:51,950 --> 01:11:49,320
and uh all he does is tweet about Metal

1730
01:11:55,130 --> 01:11:51,960
sphere UFOs all day I can't recall his

1731
01:11:58,070 --> 01:11:55,140
name but he's less incredible I think

1732
01:12:00,590 --> 01:11:58,080
but now we have this Resurgence of these

1733
01:12:03,169 --> 01:12:00,600
old stories which is everything goes in

1734
01:12:06,709 --> 01:12:03,179
a loop right

1735
01:12:10,550 --> 01:12:06,719
and um the the metal the scrapings

1736
01:12:14,770 --> 01:12:13,010
I think you mentioned that um why why

1737
01:12:17,450 --> 01:12:14,780
are these being given to an immunologist

1738
01:12:19,550 --> 01:12:17,460
yeah he's not qualified material

1739
01:12:21,890 --> 01:12:19,560
scientist so how would he know what you

1740
01:12:25,189 --> 01:12:21,900
know I mean anybody though I worked in a

1741
01:12:27,950 --> 01:12:25,199
lab Louis in at Drexel University and

1742
01:12:29,930 --> 01:12:27,960
they had a mass spectrometer and mass

1743
01:12:32,330 --> 01:12:29,940
spectrometer is very easy to use you put

1744
01:12:34,370 --> 01:12:32,340
a sample in it you run you run it and

1745
01:12:35,870 --> 01:12:34,380
it'll tell it'll come back and you know

1746
01:12:37,790 --> 01:12:35,880
you put the parameters in and then you

1747
01:12:41,930 --> 01:12:37,800
run it and it'll come back and tell you

1748
01:12:45,050 --> 01:12:41,940
what Elemental materials comprise of or

1749
01:12:47,510 --> 01:12:45,060
or that the sample is comprised of so is

1750
01:12:50,630 --> 01:12:47,520
he qualified to run a Mass spectrometer

1751
01:12:53,630 --> 01:12:50,640
sure but I would think that if you're

1752
01:12:56,990 --> 01:12:53,640
trying to determine whether materials

1753
01:12:59,450 --> 01:12:57,000
are Earthly or or extraterrestrial in

1754
01:13:01,970 --> 01:12:59,460
origin or from another solar system

1755
01:13:06,350 --> 01:13:01,980
you should have a material scientist not

1756
01:13:10,490 --> 01:13:08,570
it makes sense to me I don't know why it

1757
01:13:12,830 --> 01:13:10,500
doesn't make sense to everybody else or

1758
01:13:15,350 --> 01:13:12,840
or how as an immunologist

1759
01:13:18,590 --> 01:13:15,360
somehow qualified to analyze tissue

1760
01:13:20,870 --> 01:13:18,600
samples from a purported alien being and

1761
01:13:22,370 --> 01:13:20,880
decide if it is or not it doesn't make

1762
01:13:24,350 --> 01:13:22,380
sense it's just that he's the only

1763
01:13:27,169 --> 01:13:24,360
scientist willing to

1764
01:13:28,970 --> 01:13:27,179
I guess willing to uh entertain the

1765
01:13:30,830 --> 01:13:28,980
possibilities Maybe

1766
01:13:33,290 --> 01:13:30,840
yeah probably because he's already

1767
01:13:35,990 --> 01:13:33,300
become kind of a name

1768
01:13:38,270 --> 01:13:36,000
and a go-to person for like so-called

1769
01:13:40,729 --> 01:13:38,280
scientific analysis and just give him

1770
01:13:43,430 --> 01:13:40,739
the samples the other thing as well Mick

1771
01:13:45,290 --> 01:13:43,440
West uh raised and I don't know if um

1772
01:13:47,870 --> 01:13:45,300
Nolan has actually taken this into

1773
01:13:50,090 --> 01:13:47,880
account but um you know how Ross was

1774
01:13:52,130 --> 01:13:50,100
just sort of scraping the the ball with

1775
01:13:54,530 --> 01:13:52,140
a screwdriver

1776
01:13:57,770 --> 01:13:54,540
you would also want to make sure that

1777
01:13:59,689 --> 01:13:57,780
you're not contaminating the shavings

1778
01:14:02,090 --> 01:13:59,699
and you want to sort of cancel out the

1779
01:14:04,669 --> 01:14:02,100
contribution of the screwdriver as well

1780
01:14:09,050 --> 01:14:04,679
yeah I noticed how they were taking the

1781
01:14:11,209 --> 01:14:09,060
samples and I cringed it just doesn't it

1782
01:14:13,070 --> 01:14:11,219
doesn't look like the right way to do it

1783
01:14:14,689 --> 01:14:13,080
from a science perspective because there

1784
01:14:16,430 --> 01:14:14,699
could be contamination from the

1785
01:14:18,709 --> 01:14:16,440
screwdriver metal shavings from that

1786
01:14:21,649 --> 01:14:18,719
I'll get in or you probably want to use

1787
01:14:23,149 --> 01:14:21,659
a diamond drill or something yeah and it

1788
01:14:25,010 --> 01:14:23,159
looked like he just like picked up the

1789
01:14:27,709 --> 01:14:25,020
stuff with his hands and like they're

1790
01:14:29,870 --> 01:14:27,719
you know this is not how this works this

1791
01:14:32,630 --> 01:14:29,880
is not how any of this works you know

1792
01:14:34,490 --> 01:14:32,640
and I hate to be so aggressive but I did

1793
01:14:36,110 --> 01:14:34,500
tell this Chrissy Newton and I've told

1794
01:14:38,450 --> 01:14:36,120
by the live chat it's going to be on

1795
01:14:41,330 --> 01:14:38,460
Ryan Sprague's show so I'm going to

1796
01:14:44,990 --> 01:14:41,340
message him and say you better ask these

1797
01:14:46,790 --> 01:14:45,000
questions and if you don't I will and I

1798
01:14:48,950 --> 01:14:46,800
will report on the fact that you refuse

1799
01:14:51,590 --> 01:14:48,960
to answer these questions he should

1800
01:14:56,030 --> 01:14:51,600
answer for being involved in these money

1801
01:14:58,310 --> 01:14:56,040
scams it's very plain you know like the

1802
01:15:00,830 --> 01:14:58,320
thing with the Atacama humanoid why

1803
01:15:03,470 --> 01:15:00,840
didn't he as a scientist say Dr Steven

1804
01:15:06,050 --> 01:15:03,480
Greer don't put out a documentary until

1805
01:15:09,229 --> 01:15:06,060
I finished my analysis of the materials

1806
01:15:11,750 --> 01:15:09,239
that would be be unethical that would be

1807
01:15:13,430 --> 01:15:11,760
immoral or people might take it the

1808
01:15:14,410 --> 01:15:13,440
wrong way because it wasn't a

1809
01:15:17,030 --> 01:15:14,420
coincidence

1810
01:15:18,770 --> 01:15:17,040
Dr Stephen Greer raised a million

1811
01:15:20,510 --> 01:15:18,780
dollars to make that documentary and

1812
01:15:22,910 --> 01:15:20,520
crowdsource funds then he spent

1813
01:15:24,229 --> 01:15:22,920
something like I doubt more than fifty

1814
01:15:25,490 --> 01:15:24,239
thousand dollars to make that

1815
01:15:26,750 --> 01:15:25,500
documentary

1816
01:15:29,090 --> 01:15:26,760
then

1817
01:15:31,130 --> 01:15:29,100
he makes millions of dollars from the

1818
01:15:32,930 --> 01:15:31,140
streaming services and everybody who put

1819
01:15:36,110 --> 01:15:32,940
the documentary out

1820
01:15:38,570 --> 01:15:36,120
and the documentary ends with a question

1821
01:15:41,930 --> 01:15:38,580
well Gary's going to do the analysis and

1822
01:15:44,689 --> 01:15:41,940
then we'll know for sure like and then

1823
01:15:46,430 --> 01:15:44,699
weeks after the documentary was out and

1824
01:15:49,490 --> 01:15:46,440
Greer had made all the money and I'm

1825
01:15:51,770 --> 01:15:49,500
sure Gary got us some money to do the

1826
01:15:53,810 --> 01:15:51,780
analysis or be a part of the project I

1827
01:15:56,090 --> 01:15:53,820
don't know these are questions for him

1828
01:15:58,010 --> 01:15:56,100
but like less I think it was like a

1829
01:15:58,850 --> 01:15:58,020
month right after the documentary came

1830
01:16:02,270 --> 01:15:58,860
out

1831
01:16:04,430 --> 01:16:02,280
Nolan released the results of the of the

1832
01:16:05,630 --> 01:16:04,440
DNA analysis saying that it was all just

1833
01:16:07,490 --> 01:16:05,640
human

1834
01:16:09,950 --> 01:16:07,500
you know I would think that a credible

1835
01:16:11,630 --> 01:16:09,960
scientist would know it's going to take

1836
01:16:14,030 --> 01:16:11,640
a few more weeks don't put this

1837
01:16:16,790 --> 01:16:14,040
documentary out until

1838
01:16:18,770 --> 01:16:16,800
I'm finished with my analysis he didn't

1839
01:16:21,530 --> 01:16:18,780
do that he just let Greer do the money

1840
01:16:24,410 --> 01:16:21,540
grab and then comes out and says it's

1841
01:16:25,550 --> 01:16:24,420
It's too convenient because if they

1842
01:16:27,830 --> 01:16:25,560
would have had

1843
01:16:29,810 --> 01:16:27,840
here's the DNA results this thing is

1844
01:16:31,850 --> 01:16:29,820
totally human then there's no money

1845
01:16:34,250 --> 01:16:31,860
there's no documentary then it's

1846
01:16:37,970 --> 01:16:34,260
provably that it's just a human deformed

1847
01:16:39,649 --> 01:16:37,980
fetus or whatever it is and you know and

1848
01:16:42,290 --> 01:16:39,659
he didn't do that and then now we have

1849
01:16:44,270 --> 01:16:42,300
him do that a second time with Ross

1850
01:16:47,630 --> 01:16:44,280
Colter putting out these these promos

1851
01:16:49,790 --> 01:16:47,640
saying this is uh definitive proof of

1852
01:16:51,770 --> 01:16:49,800
alien technology as a as a credible

1853
01:16:55,669 --> 01:16:51,780
scientist he should have stood up and

1854
01:16:58,550 --> 01:16:55,679
tweeted the minute he saw those uh those

1855
01:17:00,830 --> 01:16:58,560
promos and say I haven't even begun my

1856
01:17:02,810 --> 01:17:00,840
materials analysis yet I don't know why

1857
01:17:05,270 --> 01:17:02,820
he's making those claims but he didn't

1858
01:17:08,209 --> 01:17:05,280
he just let him do it and make the money

1859
01:17:11,330 --> 01:17:08,219
and then comes out and says oh I didn't

1860
01:17:13,250 --> 01:17:11,340
start my analysis yet and by the way he

1861
01:17:15,290 --> 01:17:13,260
told me two months ago it was going to

1862
01:17:18,169 --> 01:17:15,300
take him four to six weeks to do the

1863
01:17:19,669 --> 01:17:18,179
materials analysis so I'm also going to

1864
01:17:21,950 --> 01:17:19,679
request that this Chrissy Newton and

1865
01:17:24,649 --> 01:17:21,960
Ryan sprock ask him where's the results

1866
01:17:26,870 --> 01:17:24,659
can we see the paper can we see what you

1867
01:17:28,370 --> 01:17:26,880
wrote the lab results the lab reports

1868
01:17:31,010 --> 01:17:28,380
whatever you got

1869
01:17:33,649 --> 01:17:31,020
because then it will become clear that

1870
01:17:35,510 --> 01:17:33,659
Ross coltar lied to everybody and he let

1871
01:17:38,090 --> 01:17:35,520
Ross culthart do that to make money

1872
01:17:40,910 --> 01:17:38,100
apparently or am I being too harsh here

1873
01:17:42,229 --> 01:17:40,920
Lewis no no because this is meant to be

1874
01:17:44,750 --> 01:17:42,239
about science

1875
01:17:46,490 --> 01:17:44,760
there's a procedure and a methodology to

1876
01:17:49,189 --> 01:17:46,500
science you can't just um

1877
01:17:52,010 --> 01:17:49,199
you know you can't just wing it

1878
01:17:53,630 --> 01:17:52,020
um or you know what

1879
01:17:55,850 --> 01:17:53,640
what you're doing is not science if you

1880
01:17:57,950 --> 01:17:55,860
don't follow the rules and um people

1881
01:17:59,810 --> 01:17:57,960
often complain like the phenomenon

1882
01:18:03,590 --> 01:17:59,820
doesn't care about your rules something

1883
01:18:05,450 --> 01:18:03,600
idiotic like that I yeah but um you know

1884
01:18:08,750 --> 01:18:05,460
these are meant to be scientists and

1885
01:18:10,490 --> 01:18:08,760
serious reporters and yet they're doing

1886
01:18:13,430 --> 01:18:10,500
these things which kind of facilitate or

1887
01:18:16,910 --> 01:18:13,440
even incite other people to partake in

1888
01:18:18,410 --> 01:18:16,920
money grabs and dodgy Behavior

1889
01:18:20,689 --> 01:18:18,420
so it's just I think it's very

1890
01:18:23,390 --> 01:18:20,699
embarrassing across the board

1891
01:18:25,790 --> 01:18:23,400
well I also wonder again not to be too

1892
01:18:28,310 --> 01:18:25,800
harsh but I also wonder about Gary Nolan

1893
01:18:29,870 --> 01:18:28,320
being at what is he Stanford right I

1894
01:18:33,110 --> 01:18:29,880
think Stanford

1895
01:18:35,750 --> 01:18:33,120
I think so yeah and and to me I I wonder

1896
01:18:37,970 --> 01:18:35,760
about the organization of Stanford do

1897
01:18:42,350 --> 01:18:37,980
they know that he has now been involved

1898
01:18:43,610 --> 01:18:42,360
in two very questionable alien money

1899
01:18:45,770 --> 01:18:43,620
raising

1900
01:18:47,330 --> 01:18:45,780
I don't know what to call them

1901
01:18:51,110 --> 01:18:47,340
schemes

1902
01:18:52,430 --> 01:18:51,120
that you know most people would look at

1903
01:18:54,590 --> 01:18:52,440
what happened with both of those

1904
01:18:56,750 --> 01:18:54,600
situations and say this is very

1905
01:18:58,729 --> 01:18:56,760
unethical this is very immoral you're

1906
01:19:01,130 --> 01:18:58,739
taking all this money from people hyping

1907
01:19:03,410 --> 01:19:01,140
up some something as alien when it

1908
01:19:06,229 --> 01:19:03,420
clearly is not why don't you wait until

1909
01:19:08,630 --> 01:19:06,239
you do the science before you hype it up

1910
01:19:10,910 --> 01:19:08,640
and he doesn't do that it's the hype

1911
01:19:14,030 --> 01:19:10,920
comes before the proof and the proof

1912
01:19:17,330 --> 01:19:14,040
doesn't come just the big letdown so as

1913
01:19:20,209 --> 01:19:17,340
like I don't know if I was on

1914
01:19:23,209 --> 01:19:20,219
involved in the in Stanford

1915
01:19:24,770 --> 01:19:23,219
you know uh faculty or whatever whoever

1916
01:19:27,709 --> 01:19:24,780
makes these decisions I would say like

1917
01:19:31,970 --> 01:19:27,719
you can't do both you can't work for us

1918
01:19:34,010 --> 01:19:31,980
and do these schemes these alien scams

1919
01:19:35,810 --> 01:19:34,020
at the same time it's one or the other

1920
01:19:38,630 --> 01:19:35,820
you know

1921
01:19:40,250 --> 01:19:38,640
yeah I wonder about the

1922
01:19:42,530 --> 01:19:40,260
the Tenya

1923
01:19:44,689 --> 01:19:42,540
structure at Stanford or wherever it

1924
01:19:46,610 --> 01:19:44,699
works I'm going to call and ask some

1925
01:19:48,410 --> 01:19:46,620
questions it's on my list of things to

1926
01:19:50,810 --> 01:19:48,420
do I don't know that he's a tenured

1927
01:19:52,189 --> 01:19:50,820
professor he might be and tenured

1928
01:19:55,430 --> 01:19:52,199
professors apparently can do whatever

1929
01:19:57,169 --> 01:19:55,440
they want and you can't you know they

1930
01:19:59,030 --> 01:19:57,179
they keep their tenure or they're

1931
01:20:00,649 --> 01:19:59,040
standing there that you either like

1932
01:20:04,970 --> 01:20:00,659
unfireable maybe

1933
01:20:09,590 --> 01:20:07,149
yeah maybe not maybe not on fire

1934
01:20:11,630 --> 01:20:09,600
unfiverable but um they do have broad

1935
01:20:13,610 --> 01:20:11,640
limits in terms of what they can say

1936
01:20:15,950 --> 01:20:13,620
that's uh protected under the free

1937
01:20:18,350 --> 01:20:15,960
speech Clauses and and stuff like that

1938
01:20:21,050 --> 01:20:18,360
but it does become a problem when people

1939
01:20:23,570 --> 01:20:21,060
are obviously partaking in

1940
01:20:24,370 --> 01:20:23,580
techno scams or whatever the case may be

1941
01:20:28,430 --> 01:20:24,380
here

1942
01:20:31,010 --> 01:20:28,440
and to be fair for all I know Gary Nolan

1943
01:20:34,010 --> 01:20:31,020
is too nice of a guy to like tell some

1944
01:20:36,050 --> 01:20:34,020
of these scammers no or don't do that or

1945
01:20:37,610 --> 01:20:36,060
don't do that with my name involved or

1946
01:20:39,770 --> 01:20:37,620
attached to this

1947
01:20:42,649 --> 01:20:39,780
you know it could be as simple as that

1948
01:20:45,470 --> 01:20:42,659
but I do find it interesting that all of

1949
01:20:47,990 --> 01:20:45,480
these people who worked for the CIA or

1950
01:20:50,689 --> 01:20:48,000
our former CIA are suddenly infiltrating

1951
01:20:52,370 --> 01:20:50,699
or the DIA whatever alphabets they're

1952
01:20:55,850 --> 01:20:52,380
all infiltrating the UFO Community

1953
01:20:58,130 --> 01:20:55,860
openly now and that's new that's very

1954
01:21:01,010 --> 01:20:58,140
interesting as well because this seems

1955
01:21:02,630 --> 01:21:01,020
to be um like back in the 50s and 60s

1956
01:21:05,209 --> 01:21:02,640
when they were doing that like with

1957
01:21:07,490 --> 01:21:05,219
nicap and Jack Brewer has written a lot

1958
01:21:08,870 --> 01:21:07,500
a lot about this that seems to be for

1959
01:21:11,209 --> 01:21:08,880
legitimate

1960
01:21:14,030 --> 01:21:11,219
um National Security concerns about

1961
01:21:16,790 --> 01:21:14,040
Soviet exploitation of the UFO

1962
01:21:18,950 --> 01:21:16,800
phenomenon to like whip up panic you

1963
01:21:21,410 --> 01:21:18,960
want to sort of preempt the UFO scene in

1964
01:21:23,090 --> 01:21:21,420
order to block the Soviets from using it

1965
01:21:24,950 --> 01:21:23,100
so those sorts of National Security

1966
01:21:27,350 --> 01:21:24,960
concerns could be

1967
01:21:29,030 --> 01:21:27,360
legitimate reasons why the CIA and other

1968
01:21:31,850 --> 01:21:29,040
agencies might want to

1969
01:21:34,070 --> 01:21:31,860
be involved in some way in the UFO

1970
01:21:36,830 --> 01:21:34,080
Community I've often thought you're

1971
01:21:38,689 --> 01:21:36,840
right or to misdirect against a wet

1972
01:21:40,610 --> 01:21:38,699
misdirect everybody away from Secret

1973
01:21:42,950 --> 01:21:40,620
projects that we really are working on

1974
01:21:46,010 --> 01:21:42,960
because if people are searching for

1975
01:21:47,810 --> 01:21:46,020
aliens in in the night sky they're not

1976
01:21:50,390 --> 01:21:47,820
going to be looking for stealth blimps

1977
01:21:52,550 --> 01:21:50,400
and stealth Thrones and surveillance

1978
01:21:55,010 --> 01:21:52,560
platforms that's what I think I think

1979
01:21:56,870 --> 01:21:55,020
the United States especially has stealth

1980
01:21:59,149 --> 01:21:56,880
blimps and surveillance platforms over

1981
01:22:01,370 --> 01:21:59,159
all major cities and that could be a

1982
01:22:04,310 --> 01:22:01,380
reason that people are seeing strange

1983
01:22:05,870 --> 01:22:04,320
craft in the sky at night or or whatever

1984
01:22:09,050 --> 01:22:05,880
you know

1985
01:22:11,750 --> 01:22:09,060
yeah but these days it seems like the

1986
01:22:14,090 --> 01:22:11,760
intelligence agency people

1987
01:22:15,410 --> 01:22:14,100
um are involved in some sort of techno

1988
01:22:16,910 --> 01:22:15,420
scam

1989
01:22:19,490 --> 01:22:16,920
so it seems like there's a qualitative

1990
01:22:21,709 --> 01:22:19,500
difference to what it was before these

1991
01:22:23,990 --> 01:22:21,719
days it seems like there's a kind of

1992
01:22:25,310 --> 01:22:24,000
circle of people kind of patting each

1993
01:22:28,310 --> 01:22:25,320
other on the back

1994
01:22:29,930 --> 01:22:28,320
um joining each other's organizations

1995
01:22:33,410 --> 01:22:29,940
um investing in each other's Ventures

1996
01:22:35,510 --> 01:22:33,420
and it just seems very very seedy and

1997
01:22:38,330 --> 01:22:35,520
very

1998
01:22:40,430 --> 01:22:38,340
yeah and backing up each other's claims

1999
01:22:42,770 --> 01:22:40,440
seems to be another very common thing in

2000
01:22:46,250 --> 01:22:42,780
the UFO Community you know like one

2001
01:22:49,490 --> 01:22:46,260
fraud uses another fraud to well left

2002
01:22:51,229 --> 01:22:49,500
that guy said that my information is is

2003
01:22:54,290 --> 01:22:51,239
very accurate

2004
01:22:55,850 --> 01:22:54,300
and then they do it for each other Corey

2005
01:22:58,430 --> 01:22:55,860
good and David Wilcox is the best

2006
01:23:01,430 --> 01:22:58,440
example I've heard them do talks where

2007
01:23:03,530 --> 01:23:01,440
they cite each other as sources and it

2008
01:23:05,450 --> 01:23:03,540
just seems like ridic totally ridiculous

2009
01:23:07,790 --> 01:23:05,460
to me because they're both all in this

2010
01:23:10,130 --> 01:23:07,800
you know money grab together

2011
01:23:12,950 --> 01:23:10,140
yeah yeah

2012
01:23:15,410 --> 01:23:12,960
well ancient astronauts theorists as

2013
01:23:17,450 --> 01:23:15,420
well used to do that a lot they still do

2014
01:23:19,630 --> 01:23:17,460
kind of sighting each other's so-called

2015
01:23:23,570 --> 01:23:19,640
work to validate

2016
01:23:26,630 --> 01:23:23,580
yeah foregone conclusions yeah that that

2017
01:23:28,850 --> 01:23:26,640
hair guy cites David Childress as a

2018
01:23:30,890 --> 01:23:28,860
source you know

2019
01:23:33,950 --> 01:23:30,900
do you think there's anything to ancient

2020
01:23:36,490 --> 01:23:33,960
astronaut theory while I have you here I

2021
01:23:38,870 --> 01:23:36,500
loved it growing up but I woke up yeah

2022
01:23:41,930 --> 01:23:38,880
I don't think so anymore

2023
01:23:43,130 --> 01:23:41,940
I used to um digest a lot of that Von

2024
01:23:44,950 --> 01:23:43,140
daniken

2025
01:23:49,430 --> 01:23:44,960
um documentaries back in the 90s

2026
01:23:50,390 --> 01:23:49,440
whatever craze was um you know going on

2027
01:23:53,149 --> 01:23:50,400
um

2028
01:23:54,709 --> 01:23:53,159
but no I don't think there's anything to

2029
01:23:55,970 --> 01:23:54,719
ancient astronauts I think that there

2030
01:23:58,310 --> 01:23:55,980
are definitely things we don't yet

2031
01:24:00,770 --> 01:23:58,320
understand about antiquity

2032
01:24:02,870 --> 01:24:00,780
how certain monuments were built and so

2033
01:24:04,910 --> 01:24:02,880
on but we don't need to go to aliens for

2034
01:24:08,330 --> 01:24:04,920
that and in fact um there's many

2035
01:24:10,490 --> 01:24:08,340
logistical and logical problems with

2036
01:24:12,770 --> 01:24:10,500
um invoking aliens in the first place it

2037
01:24:14,450 --> 01:24:12,780
just creates more problems than it

2038
01:24:17,510 --> 01:24:14,460
resolves

2039
01:24:19,130 --> 01:24:17,520
yeah yeah I think that you're right and

2040
01:24:20,750 --> 01:24:19,140
and I also think that a lot of people

2041
01:24:23,390 --> 01:24:20,760
aren't aware but like

2042
01:24:27,070 --> 01:24:23,400
you know a lot of this stuff is based on

2043
01:24:31,310 --> 01:24:27,080
Von Dan again and and others and and

2044
01:24:34,070 --> 01:24:31,320
inaccurate uh translations of Sumerian

2045
01:24:35,810 --> 01:24:34,080
these guys are not Sumerian linguists

2046
01:24:37,729 --> 01:24:35,820
they don't know what those tablets said

2047
01:24:40,250 --> 01:24:37,739
they they did their yes I guess to

2048
01:24:41,709 --> 01:24:40,260
translate them but Zechariah his sitchin

2049
01:24:44,510 --> 01:24:41,719
was 100

2050
01:24:47,149 --> 01:24:44,520
wrong you know and there's so much of

2051
01:24:49,189 --> 01:24:47,159
that from you know from the heavens they

2052
01:24:53,830 --> 01:24:49,199
came that's not what that tablet said

2053
01:24:56,810 --> 01:24:53,840
you know yeah was constantly um

2054
01:25:00,830 --> 01:24:56,820
unable to distinguish Sumerian from

2055
01:25:02,689 --> 01:25:00,840
Acadian and Aramaic from Hebrew so he

2056
01:25:04,729 --> 01:25:02,699
was by no means an expert in ancient

2057
01:25:07,430 --> 01:25:04,739
Linguistics and

2058
01:25:10,250 --> 01:25:07,440
um linguists have ripped his uh you know

2059
01:25:11,570 --> 01:25:10,260
his work threads but there's still a

2060
01:25:14,930 --> 01:25:11,580
sort of um

2061
01:25:16,970 --> 01:25:14,940
he wasn't as popular as Von daniken but

2062
01:25:20,390 --> 01:25:16,980
Von daniken took a lot of ideas from

2063
01:25:22,550 --> 01:25:20,400
Kitchen oh sure yeah he has still got a

2064
01:25:25,070 --> 01:25:22,560
sort of small but dedicated following to

2065
01:25:26,930 --> 01:25:25,080
this very day

2066
01:25:29,630 --> 01:25:26,940
well do you know that's another one of

2067
01:25:31,850 --> 01:25:29,640
those things that like it's tantalizing

2068
01:25:34,010 --> 01:25:31,860
and tempting and and it's inviting

2069
01:25:35,390 --> 01:25:34,020
because I I grew up Catholic and there

2070
01:25:37,490 --> 01:25:35,400
was just so many things that I didn't

2071
01:25:39,350 --> 01:25:37,500
think Catholicism explained about the

2072
01:25:41,450 --> 01:25:39,360
world and when I found that I'm like

2073
01:25:43,669 --> 01:25:41,460
yeah this makes sense like this all

2074
01:25:46,250 --> 01:25:43,679
makes sense that these other people came

2075
01:25:49,970 --> 01:25:46,260
here and you know they tinkered with our

2076
01:25:52,189 --> 01:25:49,980
DNA and and uh and you know this

2077
01:25:53,689 --> 01:25:52,199
explains a lot of ancient religions they

2078
01:25:56,030 --> 01:25:53,699
were worshiping these things because

2079
01:25:58,689 --> 01:25:56,040
they didn't understand you know it just

2080
01:26:01,910 --> 01:25:58,699
made sense to me it wasn't until later

2081
01:26:03,770 --> 01:26:01,920
that and the uh the other thing that

2082
01:26:05,990 --> 01:26:03,780
drives me nuts about ancient astronaut

2083
01:26:09,110 --> 01:26:06,000
theorists is when they they talk about

2084
01:26:11,570 --> 01:26:09,120
vimanas and they all Quote a book that

2085
01:26:14,450 --> 01:26:11,580
was channeled in 1950

2086
01:26:17,810 --> 01:26:14,460
channeled book from 1950 and claimed

2087
01:26:21,050 --> 01:26:17,820
that it was an ancient manuscript from

2088
01:26:23,510 --> 01:26:21,060
you know uh you know

2089
01:26:26,090 --> 01:26:23,520
India which it wasn't it was a channeled

2090
01:26:27,890 --> 01:26:26,100
book for all the stuff with the vimanas

2091
01:26:29,930 --> 01:26:27,900
that look like flying saucers that they

2092
01:26:33,649 --> 01:26:29,940
all use it was from a channeled book in

2093
01:26:34,729 --> 01:26:33,659
the 1950s it was not but they all say I

2094
01:26:36,649 --> 01:26:34,739
don't know how they get away with it

2095
01:26:38,750 --> 01:26:36,659
they did it on ancient astronauts ten

2096
01:26:40,550 --> 01:26:38,760
times they say it's from an ancient

2097
01:26:43,850 --> 01:26:40,560
Indian manuscript

2098
01:26:47,270 --> 01:26:43,860
and there is some mention of the vimanas

2099
01:26:49,689 --> 01:26:47,280
in like you know ancient the the Hindu

2100
01:26:53,030 --> 01:26:49,699
scripture but

2101
01:26:55,490 --> 01:26:53,040
you know the flying chariots Chariots of

2102
01:26:57,530 --> 01:26:55,500
Fire all that stuff it's a spiritual

2103
01:27:00,229 --> 01:26:57,540
thing it wasn't a physical

2104
01:27:02,350 --> 01:27:00,239
it wasn't like a physical technological

2105
01:27:05,330 --> 01:27:02,360
device

2106
01:27:07,930 --> 01:27:05,340
book in the 50s and they conflate these

2107
01:27:11,290 --> 01:27:07,940
two you know

2108
01:27:14,689 --> 01:27:11,300
that's where they yeah

2109
01:27:18,050 --> 01:27:14,699
with this book from the 1950s that talks

2110
01:27:19,970 --> 01:27:18,060
about spinning Mercury and plasma and

2111
01:27:21,250 --> 01:27:19,980
you know but that was a Channel of the

2112
01:27:25,010 --> 01:27:21,260
book so

2113
01:27:26,629 --> 01:27:25,020
and it was 1950s not an ancient book but

2114
01:27:28,610 --> 01:27:26,639
then they show those pictures from the

2115
01:27:30,350 --> 01:27:28,620
1950s books of those things that look

2116
01:27:32,689 --> 01:27:30,360
like flying saucers

2117
01:27:34,850 --> 01:27:32,699
and they suggest that these things were

2118
01:27:36,310 --> 01:27:34,860
around in ancient India

2119
01:27:39,590 --> 01:27:36,320
you know it's actually

2120
01:27:41,930 --> 01:27:39,600
doubly doubly insulting to the ancient

2121
01:27:43,910 --> 01:27:41,940
peoples because first of all it's saying

2122
01:27:45,649 --> 01:27:43,920
that they didn't have an imagination and

2123
01:27:47,450 --> 01:27:45,659
that they were only capable of

2124
01:27:49,250 --> 01:27:47,460
you know making stories about what they

2125
01:27:50,149 --> 01:27:49,260
literally saw instead of what they could

2126
01:27:52,250 --> 01:27:50,159
imagine

2127
01:27:54,649 --> 01:27:52,260
and secondly it's implying that they

2128
01:27:57,110 --> 01:27:54,659
were not smart enough to build these

2129
01:27:59,930 --> 01:27:57,120
amazing things without outside help

2130
01:28:02,570 --> 01:27:59,940
yeah you're right I I feel the same way

2131
01:28:05,270 --> 01:28:02,580
I feel like every time that they claim

2132
01:28:08,090 --> 01:28:05,280
somebody claims that the pyramids were

2133
01:28:10,729 --> 01:28:08,100
built by built by or withhelp from

2134
01:28:13,310 --> 01:28:10,739
Aliens I'm saying you're you're

2135
01:28:15,229 --> 01:28:13,320
disrespecting The Genius of these

2136
01:28:16,370 --> 01:28:15,239
ancient peoples that were able to figure

2137
01:28:19,669 --> 01:28:16,380
this out

2138
01:28:23,270 --> 01:28:19,679
with you know pulleys and levers and and

2139
01:28:25,550 --> 01:28:23,280
roll rolling huge Granite blocks on on

2140
01:28:28,850 --> 01:28:25,560
like you know logs

2141
01:28:30,890 --> 01:28:28,860
and uh it just it takes away from the

2142
01:28:33,470 --> 01:28:30,900
Brilliance of man it's it's basically

2143
01:28:35,390 --> 01:28:33,480
says that we as humans were too stupid

2144
01:28:38,810 --> 01:28:35,400
to come up with this we had to have help

2145
01:28:40,790 --> 01:28:38,820
from some Advanced aliens there's no way

2146
01:28:43,250 --> 01:28:40,800
we could have done it but people have

2147
01:28:44,870 --> 01:28:43,260
shown how we've done it and it still

2148
01:28:45,830 --> 01:28:44,880
doesn't satisfy some people I guess

2149
01:28:51,350 --> 01:28:45,840
right

2150
01:28:53,689 --> 01:28:51,360
actually a modern version of that

2151
01:28:56,510 --> 01:28:53,699
um the idea that like electronics and

2152
01:28:59,390 --> 01:28:56,520
transistors and fiber optics were handed

2153
01:29:01,370 --> 01:28:59,400
To Us by the Roswell crash

2154
01:29:03,649 --> 01:29:01,380
that's sort of like a modern like a

2155
01:29:05,390 --> 01:29:03,659
another version of the same thing that

2156
01:29:08,090 --> 01:29:05,400
drives me nuts too because all that

2157
01:29:11,270 --> 01:29:08,100
research was well underway before the

2158
01:29:13,189 --> 01:29:11,280
crash happened you know yeah the guy who

2159
01:29:15,830 --> 01:29:13,199
came up with a fiber optics he had the

2160
01:29:17,390 --> 01:29:15,840
idea in the 1930s

2161
01:29:20,270 --> 01:29:17,400
you know way before there was any

2162
01:29:22,790 --> 01:29:20,280
Roswell anything

2163
01:29:24,530 --> 01:29:22,800
um yeah all of that came from uh Phil

2164
01:29:26,510 --> 01:29:24,540
Corso's books but I don't find that

2165
01:29:28,850 --> 01:29:26,520
credible at all that book

2166
01:29:31,129 --> 01:29:28,860
it's not I mean but the thing that

2167
01:29:33,890 --> 01:29:31,139
intrigues me is um

2168
01:29:36,890 --> 01:29:33,900
why do these uh former government people

2169
01:29:40,430 --> 01:29:36,900
often very distinguished um accomplished

2170
01:29:41,930 --> 01:29:40,440
people why do they find it necessary to

2171
01:29:44,149 --> 01:29:41,940
uh

2172
01:29:46,430 --> 01:29:44,159
say that they were privy to some sort of

2173
01:29:48,770 --> 01:29:46,440
alien secrets

2174
01:29:51,470 --> 01:29:48,780
like is it just ego is it that they want

2175
01:29:54,110 --> 01:29:51,480
to make money or want I think for Corso

2176
01:29:55,310 --> 01:29:54,120
that was a big cash in because if you

2177
01:29:57,649 --> 01:29:55,320
think about it

2178
01:29:59,390 --> 01:29:57,659
he was in charge of foreign technology

2179
01:30:00,950 --> 01:29:59,400
he was in the right place at the right

2180
01:30:03,410 --> 01:30:00,960
time to actually know what really

2181
01:30:05,090 --> 01:30:03,420
happened at Roswell maybe he just

2182
01:30:06,950 --> 01:30:05,100
thought I'm going to make a couple

2183
01:30:08,750 --> 01:30:06,960
million dollars before I kicked the

2184
01:30:11,750 --> 01:30:08,760
bucket here and leave it to my family

2185
01:30:13,669 --> 01:30:11,760
they still own the publishing rights to

2186
01:30:15,890 --> 01:30:13,679
his book you could still buy it on

2187
01:30:18,890 --> 01:30:15,900
Amazon they're still making money from

2188
01:30:20,870 --> 01:30:18,900
that book his son runs around at UFO

2189
01:30:23,510 --> 01:30:20,880
conferences and promotes his father's

2190
01:30:25,850 --> 01:30:23,520
being this big hero that knew all about

2191
01:30:28,850 --> 01:30:25,860
Roswell and was tasked with Distributing

2192
01:30:31,669 --> 01:30:28,860
the technology to the to these Mega

2193
01:30:33,890 --> 01:30:31,679
corporations in the United States and

2194
01:30:34,850 --> 01:30:33,900
that they're still making money from it

2195
01:30:38,810 --> 01:30:34,860
today

2196
01:30:41,090 --> 01:30:38,820
right zero proof of any of it zero what

2197
01:30:42,290 --> 01:30:41,100
about uh the Canadian defense minister

2198
01:30:44,930 --> 01:30:42,300
Helia

2199
01:30:48,410 --> 01:30:44,940
oh I think that that guy was Mr gullible

2200
01:30:50,510 --> 01:30:48,420
he read it in a book therefore it's true

2201
01:30:53,810 --> 01:30:50,520
yeah you know I think that he had a

2202
01:30:55,490 --> 01:30:53,820
problem with discernment 100 because he

2203
01:30:58,010 --> 01:30:55,500
just read Phil Corso's book and just

2204
01:31:00,110 --> 01:30:58,020
took it as 100 gospel all of this is a

2205
01:31:02,750 --> 01:31:00,120
hundred percent true why would a

2206
01:31:05,930 --> 01:31:02,760
high-ranking government official lie and

2207
01:31:08,270 --> 01:31:05,940
and he didn't even everything that that

2208
01:31:10,490 --> 01:31:08,280
guy read in a book I'd heard him he

2209
01:31:12,410 --> 01:31:10,500
would mention books that he read and

2210
01:31:15,649 --> 01:31:12,420
then start talking about the stories as

2211
01:31:18,649 --> 01:31:15,659
if they were all 100 provably verifiably

2212
01:31:21,610 --> 01:31:18,659
True with real facts and evidence just

2213
01:31:25,550 --> 01:31:21,620
because he read it in a book and that

2214
01:31:27,229 --> 01:31:25,560
is naive and stupid yeah because we

2215
01:31:30,830 --> 01:31:27,239
should get past that when we're children

2216
01:31:32,510 --> 01:31:30,840
like we realize that is real yeah Jack

2217
01:31:35,689 --> 01:31:32,520
and the Beanstalk is in the book it

2218
01:31:38,030 --> 01:31:35,699
doesn't mean it's it's a real story

2219
01:31:41,270 --> 01:31:38,040
and then there was also the Israeli

2220
01:31:44,990 --> 01:31:41,280
um former uh space that's a great story

2221
01:31:48,050 --> 01:31:45,000
because what he what he was saying was

2222
01:31:49,610 --> 01:31:48,060
that he heard these things from his

2223
01:31:53,330 --> 01:31:49,620
granddaughter

2224
01:31:55,490 --> 01:31:53,340
who read him in who read it in a book so

2225
01:31:57,709 --> 01:31:55,500
it was like a third hand account and

2226
01:31:59,990 --> 01:31:57,719
people turned that into the former

2227
01:32:02,390 --> 01:32:00,000
Israeli space Minister confirms that

2228
01:32:04,910 --> 01:32:02,400
aliens are real aliens are visiting us

2229
01:32:07,850 --> 01:32:04,920
that story got totally blown out of

2230
01:32:11,030 --> 01:32:07,860
proportion and it was reported wrong 100

2231
01:32:13,970 --> 01:32:11,040
wrong he didn't say that he said his

2232
01:32:17,030 --> 01:32:13,980
granddaughter told him that okay and I

2233
01:32:19,729 --> 01:32:17,040
can't remember but I think it was some

2234
01:32:22,250 --> 01:32:19,739
really really bad information source

2235
01:32:24,770 --> 01:32:22,260
that she had read like Linda montal or

2236
01:32:26,870 --> 01:32:24,780
Stephen Greer mm-hmm

2237
01:32:30,050 --> 01:32:26,880
which is crazy

2238
01:32:32,050 --> 01:32:30,060
yeah well Linda Moulton Howe um is still

2239
01:32:34,790 --> 01:32:32,060
at it

2240
01:32:36,950 --> 01:32:34,800
kind of one of these um

2241
01:32:39,169 --> 01:32:36,960
people these reporters who were

2242
01:32:41,629 --> 01:32:39,179
supposedly getting disclosure from

2243
01:32:43,430 --> 01:32:41,639
government agents like Dodie but she's

2244
01:32:45,050 --> 01:32:43,440
been doing this for decades now like

2245
01:32:47,510 --> 01:32:45,060
more recently she's been saying that

2246
01:32:48,770 --> 01:32:47,520
defense intelligence agency insiders

2247
01:32:51,169 --> 01:32:48,780
have been telling her about like a

2248
01:32:55,850 --> 01:32:51,179
secret underground alien civilization

2249
01:32:57,770 --> 01:32:55,860
and that real is real and that Nazi UFOs

2250
01:32:59,870 --> 01:32:57,780
went to Antarctica at the end of World

2251
01:33:00,830 --> 01:32:59,880
War II so she basically just believes

2252
01:33:03,890 --> 01:33:00,840
everything

2253
01:33:05,570 --> 01:33:03,900
but it just fascinates me that I'm if

2254
01:33:07,070 --> 01:33:05,580
she is getting this so-called

2255
01:33:09,110 --> 01:33:07,080
information from somebody like who's

2256
01:33:10,669 --> 01:33:09,120
actually feeding that to her is it just

2257
01:33:13,610 --> 01:33:10,679
somebody posing as

2258
01:33:17,510 --> 01:33:13,620
government or is it yeah and who who fed

2259
01:33:20,450 --> 01:33:17,520
her not one but two sets of 100 fake

2260
01:33:23,390 --> 01:33:20,460
alien rendered images you know alien

2261
01:33:26,330 --> 01:33:23,400
artists created images of aliens and

2262
01:33:27,890 --> 01:33:26,340
told her they were real or there's two

2263
01:33:29,990 --> 01:33:27,900
things that I think the the one

2264
01:33:31,669 --> 01:33:30,000
possibility is that she does have these

2265
01:33:34,010 --> 01:33:31,679
people emailing her this stuff and

2266
01:33:37,070 --> 01:33:34,020
telling her these stories and giving her

2267
01:33:39,350 --> 01:33:37,080
really really bad information or she's

2268
01:33:41,270 --> 01:33:39,360
just making it all up when she finds

2269
01:33:42,350 --> 01:33:41,280
this stuff including the fake sources

2270
01:33:44,689 --> 01:33:42,360
because

2271
01:33:47,330 --> 01:33:44,699
twice now in the past year and a half

2272
01:33:50,750 --> 01:33:47,340
she got caught 100 percent

2273
01:33:53,510 --> 01:33:50,760
you know Hucks during 100 provably fake

2274
01:33:57,169 --> 01:33:53,520
artist created images of aliens claiming

2275
01:33:59,930 --> 01:33:57,179
they were 100 real pictures of aliens

2276
01:34:01,070 --> 01:33:59,940
it's it's kind of laughable and now I

2277
01:34:05,330 --> 01:34:01,080
don't know if you know this but now

2278
01:34:07,129 --> 01:34:05,340
she's doing some uh UFO conference April

2279
01:34:09,169 --> 01:34:07,139
20th I can't recall the name of the

2280
01:34:10,910 --> 01:34:09,179
conference and she's saying that she has

2281
01:34:12,649 --> 01:34:10,920
a new anonymous source that's telling

2282
01:34:14,890 --> 01:34:12,659
her that right at the time of the

2283
01:34:17,689 --> 01:34:14,900
conference we're gonna get 100

2284
01:34:19,910 --> 01:34:17,699
verifiable proof of alien life on other

2285
01:34:22,010 --> 01:34:19,920
planets and you want to go to the

2286
01:34:24,709 --> 01:34:22,020
conference Lewis to be with like-minded

2287
01:34:27,709 --> 01:34:24,719
people during this prestigious time

2288
01:34:30,410 --> 01:34:27,719
where all of our confirmations are good

2289
01:34:32,390 --> 01:34:30,420
or all of our already held beliefs are

2290
01:34:34,129 --> 01:34:32,400
going to be proven to be real and true

2291
01:34:36,169 --> 01:34:34,139
so you want to go to this conference

2292
01:34:38,149 --> 01:34:36,179
because of that and it's another

2293
01:34:38,930 --> 01:34:38,159
anonymous source that's telling her this

2294
01:34:40,610 --> 01:34:38,940
stuff

2295
01:34:44,810 --> 01:34:40,620
yeah

2296
01:34:48,169 --> 01:34:44,820
it's a weird subculture

2297
01:34:50,930 --> 01:34:48,179
yeah yeah and we can see how she lives

2298
01:34:52,790 --> 01:34:50,940
in a bubble because uh you know when she

2299
01:34:55,370 --> 01:34:52,800
gets asked the hard question she lost

2300
01:34:58,669 --> 01:34:55,380
her goddamn mind you know she started

2301
01:35:00,010 --> 01:34:58,679
talking about a boxes of awards and how

2302
01:35:04,610 --> 01:35:00,020
he always

2303
01:35:09,050 --> 01:35:06,950
yeah George George knob did that to me

2304
01:35:11,930 --> 01:35:09,060
actually yeah you and I should trade

2305
01:35:14,390 --> 01:35:11,940
stories because he did that to me he he

2306
01:35:16,610 --> 01:35:14,400
sent me this big rambling message on

2307
01:35:19,510 --> 01:35:16,620
Facebook when I did a report on the

2308
01:35:23,689 --> 01:35:19,520
government raid on Bob lazar's business

2309
01:35:26,209 --> 01:35:23,699
and look in my defense Lewis I talked to

2310
01:35:28,970 --> 01:35:26,219
the FBI agents that were there I talked

2311
01:35:31,430 --> 01:35:28,980
to the Hazmat guy I talked to the local

2312
01:35:34,070 --> 01:35:31,440
sheriff that the business of the town

2313
01:35:36,890 --> 01:35:34,080
that the business was located in and

2314
01:35:39,050 --> 01:35:36,900
they all were like shocked I had to send

2315
01:35:40,790 --> 01:35:39,060
them clips of the documentary with the

2316
01:35:43,310 --> 01:35:40,800
claims that were made in the documentary

2317
01:35:46,010 --> 01:35:43,320
they were all shocked they were like

2318
01:35:48,770 --> 01:35:46,020
first of all not one of them knew

2319
01:35:52,490 --> 01:35:48,780
anything about Bob Lazar being like a

2320
01:35:54,770 --> 01:35:52,500
UFO celebrity or you know a hero to some

2321
01:35:57,169 --> 01:35:54,780
people and they all had to go look him

2322
01:35:59,930 --> 01:35:57,179
up and and read about it or watch

2323
01:36:02,390 --> 01:35:59,940
something and and then and they all came

2324
01:36:04,550 --> 01:36:02,400
back to me and were like we had I the

2325
01:36:07,129 --> 01:36:04,560
sheriff especially he said I heard

2326
01:36:09,169 --> 01:36:07,139
something about he worked at Area 51 but

2327
01:36:11,450 --> 01:36:09,179
most people in the town say that he was

2328
01:36:13,490 --> 01:36:11,460
a bullshitter and he never really did he

2329
01:36:15,770 --> 01:36:13,500
just did it to sell some kind of story

2330
01:36:18,290 --> 01:36:15,780
to the National Enquirer or something he

2331
01:36:21,290 --> 01:36:18,300
was like kind of informed but not really

2332
01:36:23,090 --> 01:36:21,300
and so the whole government raid on

2333
01:36:25,310 --> 01:36:23,100
babazar's business had nothing to do

2334
01:36:27,470 --> 01:36:25,320
with Bob lazar's stupid Flying Saucer

2335
01:36:29,510 --> 01:36:27,480
stories or element 115 and they all

2336
01:36:31,310 --> 01:36:29,520
confirmed that to me they went in they

2337
01:36:32,810 --> 01:36:31,320
got the sales invoices they were looking

2338
01:36:35,750 --> 01:36:32,820
for for the chemical that somebody

2339
01:36:38,990 --> 01:36:35,760
allegedly murdered their wives with

2340
01:36:40,970 --> 01:36:39,000
their wife with and then they left and

2341
01:36:43,310 --> 01:36:40,980
yes there was a Hazmat guy but that was

2342
01:36:45,050 --> 01:36:43,320
just over abundance of caution he's got

2343
01:36:48,050 --> 01:36:45,060
all kinds of strange chemicals in there

2344
01:36:50,689 --> 01:36:48,060
that guy went in in a hazmat suit looked

2345
01:36:52,490 --> 01:36:50,699
around took some readings cleared it to

2346
01:36:54,169 --> 01:36:52,500
be safe for the other agents and the

2347
01:36:56,510 --> 01:36:54,179
sheriff to go in and get what they

2348
01:36:58,970 --> 01:36:56,520
needed they weren't there all day there

2349
01:37:01,189 --> 01:36:58,980
wasn't 40 or 50 people like George Knapp

2350
01:37:03,950 --> 01:37:01,199
and corbel and Lazar Clane there was

2351
01:37:06,410 --> 01:37:03,960
like I think it was 11 people total but

2352
01:37:08,629 --> 01:37:06,420
most of them stayed outside and the

2353
01:37:11,149 --> 01:37:08,639
sheriff was in The Briefing before the

2354
01:37:13,550 --> 01:37:11,159
raid he was in on the raid he said

2355
01:37:17,090 --> 01:37:13,560
nobody said anything about Element 115

2356
01:37:18,709 --> 01:37:17,100
no nobody was under surveillance that

2357
01:37:20,270 --> 01:37:18,719
that everything that they said and then

2358
01:37:22,070 --> 01:37:20,280
he was shocked he was like everything

2359
01:37:25,250 --> 01:37:22,080
they said in this so-called documentary

2360
01:37:27,290 --> 01:37:25,260
is fake and I go I know but thank you

2361
01:37:29,930 --> 01:37:27,300
for confirming it so then I did a report

2362
01:37:32,330 --> 01:37:29,940
on it and George Knapp saw it and lost

2363
01:37:35,209 --> 01:37:32,340
his goddamn mind and he sent me this big

2364
01:37:37,490 --> 01:37:35,219
long message telling me how wrong I was

2365
01:37:40,490 --> 01:37:37,500
and I don't know what I'm doing and he's

2366
01:37:42,530 --> 01:37:40,500
been a journalist for 30 40 years and

2367
01:37:44,810 --> 01:37:42,540
he's investigated lots of murders this

2368
01:37:48,110 --> 01:37:44,820
isn't how a murder investigation is done

2369
01:37:50,390 --> 01:37:48,120
I don't know anything I'm naive I'm

2370
01:37:52,430 --> 01:37:50,400
stupid I thought it was funny he did

2371
01:37:56,030 --> 01:37:52,440
something similar to you

2372
01:37:59,090 --> 01:37:56,040
well I sent him a bunch of um TV uh

2373
01:38:02,390 --> 01:37:59,100
timestamps for vintage UFO documentaries

2374
01:38:04,850 --> 01:38:02,400
and tv specials showing like the um

2375
01:38:07,850 --> 01:38:04,860
sources of inspiration for literally all

2376
01:38:09,950 --> 01:38:07,860
of lazar's claims haha you gotta send me

2377
01:38:11,990 --> 01:38:09,960
that I want to look at all of them yeah

2378
01:38:14,510 --> 01:38:12,000
you just pulled the seniority card

2379
01:38:17,510 --> 01:38:14,520
telling me that um in his long 30 years

2380
01:38:18,470 --> 01:38:17,520
of investigative journalism he's um come

2381
01:38:23,209 --> 01:38:18,480
to

2382
01:38:25,729 --> 01:38:23,219
musings of random people

2383
01:38:27,649 --> 01:38:25,739
from the public so in other words he

2384
01:38:29,750 --> 01:38:27,659
didn't like the proof or evidence that

2385
01:38:32,149 --> 01:38:29,760
you had so he will discard it because it

2386
01:38:35,030 --> 01:38:32,159
doesn't it doesn't help him sell more

2387
01:38:37,129 --> 01:38:35,040
Bob Lazar stuff yeah although admittedly

2388
01:38:39,410 --> 01:38:37,139
I wasn't entirely civil I did say that

2389
01:38:40,570 --> 01:38:39,420
Lazar is full of kaka or something like

2390
01:38:45,110 --> 01:38:40,580
that

2391
01:38:47,270 --> 01:38:45,120
so I agree with you

2392
01:38:49,070 --> 01:38:47,280
could I just ask though with the the

2393
01:38:51,770 --> 01:38:49,080
raid on lazar's business

2394
01:38:53,270 --> 01:38:51,780
um the the department of energy was not

2395
01:38:55,430 --> 01:38:53,280
involved right

2396
01:38:57,110 --> 01:38:55,440
not that I'm aware of no not at all

2397
01:38:59,209 --> 01:38:57,120
because that's really how we know that

2398
01:39:01,070 --> 01:38:59,219
it had nothing to do with element 115

2399
01:39:02,930 --> 01:39:01,080
because they would absolutely be

2400
01:39:06,470 --> 01:39:02,940
involved if there was like a nuclear an

2401
01:39:08,629 --> 01:39:06,480
exotic new element involved well isn't

2402
01:39:10,310 --> 01:39:08,639
it funny too that George Knapp once

2403
01:39:12,709 --> 01:39:10,320
claimed that Bob Lazar when he was

2404
01:39:14,990 --> 01:39:12,719
getting paranoid about uh you know the

2405
01:39:17,149 --> 01:39:15,000
government coming after him he had the

2406
01:39:19,490 --> 01:39:17,159
element 115 and he was going to put it

2407
01:39:22,370 --> 01:39:19,500
in a particle accelerator and that would

2408
01:39:25,250 --> 01:39:22,380
blow up like most of Las Vegas and

2409
01:39:28,550 --> 01:39:25,260
that's terrorism he didn't do anything

2410
01:39:30,890 --> 01:39:28,560
he didn't contact like the authorities

2411
01:39:34,430 --> 01:39:30,900
or the atomic energy commission or the

2412
01:39:36,590 --> 01:39:34,440
sheriff or the police or the FBI and say

2413
01:39:40,310 --> 01:39:36,600
this guy's got some kind of technology

2414
01:39:43,129 --> 01:39:40,320
that goes in the city to destroy a state

2415
01:39:46,070 --> 01:39:43,139
right he didn't call anybody he didn't

2416
01:39:47,570 --> 01:39:46,080
do anything and he's also claimed I have

2417
01:39:49,970 --> 01:39:47,580
the clip of it

2418
01:39:52,129 --> 01:39:49,980
um he he made a statement at a UFO

2419
01:39:53,689 --> 01:39:52,139
conference I think a lot of these guys

2420
01:39:56,930 --> 01:39:53,699
they they

2421
01:39:58,729 --> 01:39:56,940
they go a little too far sometimes and

2422
01:40:01,189 --> 01:39:58,739
then they regret it like I'm sure he

2423
01:40:02,990 --> 01:40:01,199
regrets this statement but George Knapp

2424
01:40:06,169 --> 01:40:03,000
claimed that a UFO conference I have the

2425
01:40:08,510 --> 01:40:06,179
clip that he knows where some of that

2426
01:40:10,970 --> 01:40:08,520
element 115 is buried and someday he's

2427
01:40:13,070 --> 01:40:10,980
going to dig it up and I just think like

2428
01:40:14,750 --> 01:40:13,080
that's such a ridiculous statement to

2429
01:40:18,890 --> 01:40:14,760
make like do you mean to tell me you

2430
01:40:21,470 --> 01:40:18,900
have you know where 100 proof of alien

2431
01:40:24,110 --> 01:40:21,480
visitation on Earth is buried

2432
01:40:25,970 --> 01:40:24,120
and you being a money-grubbing reporter

2433
01:40:27,649 --> 01:40:25,980
your whole life you're just going to

2434
01:40:29,450 --> 01:40:27,659
leave that buried there you're not going

2435
01:40:32,330 --> 01:40:29,460
to go get it the minute you know where

2436
01:40:35,270 --> 01:40:32,340
it is and get it analyzed and have the

2437
01:40:38,209 --> 01:40:35,280
biggest story in the world tomorrow it's

2438
01:40:40,669 --> 01:40:38,219
total BS it's total BS of course he

2439
01:40:42,470 --> 01:40:40,679
would if he really had that and that

2440
01:40:43,850 --> 01:40:42,480
would also be a national security

2441
01:40:46,250 --> 01:40:43,860
um

2442
01:40:48,470 --> 01:40:46,260
breach like there were laws that don't

2443
01:40:50,570 --> 01:40:48,480
let you do that like this this would be

2444
01:40:54,530 --> 01:40:50,580
stolen material from a secret you know

2445
01:40:58,669 --> 01:40:54,540
facility yeah on charges of Espionage or

2446
01:41:01,010 --> 01:40:58,679
something like that I could imagine yeah

2447
01:41:03,290 --> 01:41:01,020
yeah but during snap I don't I don't

2448
01:41:05,450 --> 01:41:03,300
think you know I grew up listening to

2449
01:41:07,070 --> 01:41:05,460
him and everything but I at some point

2450
01:41:10,129 --> 01:41:07,080
you just go this guy is about as

2451
01:41:11,750 --> 01:41:10,139
credible as a crackhead I don't care you

2452
01:41:13,610 --> 01:41:11,760
know I like that

2453
01:41:15,290 --> 01:41:13,620
anybody can call themselves an

2454
01:41:16,910 --> 01:41:15,300
investigative journalist Louis you know

2455
01:41:19,910 --> 01:41:16,920
how I know

2456
01:41:22,370 --> 01:41:19,920
because I'm working on a story that

2457
01:41:24,830 --> 01:41:22,380
involves police and law enforcement and

2458
01:41:27,169 --> 01:41:24,840
the local district attorney here where I

2459
01:41:29,750 --> 01:41:27,179
live it's a cold case murder

2460
01:41:33,290 --> 01:41:29,760
and uh I've requested interviews with

2461
01:41:35,330 --> 01:41:33,300
those guys and the the media relations

2462
01:41:37,430 --> 01:41:35,340
person said

2463
01:41:39,470 --> 01:41:37,440
um I'm gonna try to get them to do this

2464
01:41:40,790 --> 01:41:39,480
for you but they're very busy so you

2465
01:41:43,070 --> 01:41:40,800
might be here for like two or three

2466
01:41:44,689 --> 01:41:43,080
hours waiting for this guy or that guy

2467
01:41:46,550 --> 01:41:44,699
you know but they're all in one building

2468
01:41:48,590 --> 01:41:46,560
so I thought this would be good up all

2469
01:41:50,330 --> 01:41:48,600
right I'll wait around I said do I need

2470
01:41:52,129 --> 01:41:50,340
to bring anything with me and he said

2471
01:41:54,410 --> 01:41:52,139
you're going to need to bring business

2472
01:41:55,370 --> 01:41:54,420
cards and a press pass to get in the

2473
01:41:57,830 --> 01:41:55,380
building

2474
01:41:59,629 --> 01:41:57,840
and instantly I didn't say anything but

2475
01:42:01,430 --> 01:41:59,639
I instantly said oh that could be a

2476
01:42:03,169 --> 01:42:01,440
problem you know I'm an independent guy

2477
01:42:06,109 --> 01:42:03,179
here I don't I don't work for a real

2478
01:42:07,669 --> 01:42:06,119
news organization so I asked around to

2479
01:42:10,390 --> 01:42:07,679
some of my friends and they sent me a

2480
01:42:13,430 --> 01:42:10,400
link where anybody can buy a press pass

2481
01:42:17,330 --> 01:42:13,440
on the internet it was it was like six

2482
01:42:19,209 --> 01:42:17,340
dollars so so I put I've got the press

2483
01:42:22,070 --> 01:42:19,219
pass and I just put under my name

2484
01:42:23,750 --> 01:42:22,080
investigative journalists so this is how

2485
01:42:25,430 --> 01:42:23,760
I know like anybody could say I'm an

2486
01:42:28,129 --> 01:42:25,440
investigative journalist and some people

2487
01:42:30,649 --> 01:42:28,139
think that that gives you some kind of

2488
01:42:33,649 --> 01:42:30,659
credibility but George Knapp is selling

2489
01:42:36,229 --> 01:42:33,659
fake alien stories for 30 years from a

2490
01:42:39,530 --> 01:42:36,239
convicted pimp you know like that

2491
01:42:41,990 --> 01:42:39,540
doesn't mean he's credible you know and

2492
01:42:43,910 --> 01:42:42,000
he himself admits that Lazar was you

2493
01:42:46,430 --> 01:42:43,920
know investing in brothels and that sort

2494
01:42:49,430 --> 01:42:46,440
of thing a lot of people don't know this

2495
01:42:52,910 --> 01:42:49,440
I think we talked about this before he's

2496
01:42:55,729 --> 01:42:52,920
the one who got Bob Lazar arrested he

2497
01:42:58,310 --> 01:42:55,739
Bible star comes to and tells him and by

2498
01:43:01,129 --> 01:42:58,320
the way it was it was right near his

2499
01:43:03,590 --> 01:43:01,139
house it was right near his house the

2500
01:43:05,510 --> 01:43:03,600
whorehouse so he tells Bob Lazar like

2501
01:43:08,090 --> 01:43:05,520
you're going to destroy my whole career

2502
01:43:09,169 --> 01:43:08,100
he calls the police and turns in Bob

2503
01:43:12,050 --> 01:43:09,179
Lazar

2504
01:43:14,090 --> 01:43:12,060
and then they arrest him so he's in

2505
01:43:16,010 --> 01:43:14,100
addition to everything else he re he

2506
01:43:17,149 --> 01:43:16,020
ratted out his friend for running a

2507
01:43:20,209 --> 01:43:17,159
warehouse

2508
01:43:21,530 --> 01:43:20,219
well I think he claims that um lazara

2509
01:43:23,090 --> 01:43:21,540
greed

2510
01:43:25,370 --> 01:43:23,100
that they would both go to the police

2511
01:43:27,350 --> 01:43:25,380
station

2512
01:43:29,330 --> 01:43:27,360
to sort of like nip it in the bud and

2513
01:43:32,030 --> 01:43:29,340
you know so that it wouldn't spin out of

2514
01:43:38,270 --> 01:43:35,750
yeah but you know listen Louis we're not

2515
01:43:40,070 --> 01:43:38,280
like close friends but if if I found out

2516
01:43:42,709 --> 01:43:40,080
that you could be in some legal Jeopardy

2517
01:43:44,750 --> 01:43:42,719
for something I wouldn't call the cops

2518
01:43:47,510 --> 01:43:44,760
on you I would help you like shut it

2519
01:43:49,189 --> 01:43:47,520
down like on the slide right like like

2520
01:43:51,470 --> 01:43:49,199
if you were running a whorehouse Lewis

2521
01:43:53,870 --> 01:43:51,480
I'm the guy to go to I would go there

2522
01:43:55,970 --> 01:43:53,880
I'd be like look all you [\h__\h] got to

2523
01:43:57,590 --> 01:43:55,980
get out we're shutting this thing down I

2524
01:44:00,050 --> 01:43:57,600
don't want my friend Lewis to get in any

2525
01:44:02,270 --> 01:44:00,060
trouble you [\h__\h] got to get out all

2526
01:44:04,790 --> 01:44:02,280
you John's get in your car or we're

2527
01:44:07,129 --> 01:44:04,800
calling the cops whatever right and then

2528
01:44:09,350 --> 01:44:07,139
click get some people in here clean out

2529
01:44:11,990 --> 01:44:09,360
the furniture get the spooge mopper in

2530
01:44:15,830 --> 01:44:12,000
mop up all the spoons get out of there

2531
01:44:17,689 --> 01:44:15,840
shut it down list it as uh an empty

2532
01:44:19,310 --> 01:44:17,699
office building or something you don't

2533
01:44:21,410 --> 01:44:19,320
just go right to the cops they're

2534
01:44:23,890 --> 01:44:21,420
supposed to be friends he ratted his

2535
01:44:27,290 --> 01:44:23,900
friend he got him arrested

2536
01:44:29,750 --> 01:44:27,300
geek bubbles are concocted and

2537
01:44:32,090 --> 01:44:29,760
manufactured this story and gave George

2538
01:44:34,370 --> 01:44:32,100
Napa career and and helped him made

2539
01:44:37,070 --> 01:44:34,380
millions of dollars and he paid him back

2540
01:44:40,850 --> 01:44:37,080
by calling the cops on him for running a

2541
01:44:42,770 --> 01:44:40,860
whorehouse it's yeah brilliant

2542
01:44:44,510 --> 01:44:42,780
although admittedly

2543
01:44:46,729 --> 01:44:44,520
um I think nap is still

2544
01:44:48,109 --> 01:44:46,739
he's still got his um fingers in the

2545
01:44:51,709 --> 01:44:48,119
money stream

2546
01:44:54,350 --> 01:44:51,719
it was the a lot of people don't know

2547
01:44:57,350 --> 01:44:54,360
this he was the executive producer of

2548
01:44:59,570 --> 01:44:57,360
Jeremy corbell's film yeah which means

2549
01:45:01,850 --> 01:44:59,580
ask around if you know anything about

2550
01:45:04,430 --> 01:45:01,860
film the executive producer is the guy

2551
01:45:06,830 --> 01:45:04,440
that is getting the project done he's

2552
01:45:09,169 --> 01:45:06,840
either funding it or he's bringing in

2553
01:45:12,109 --> 01:45:09,179
the the investors that are going to put

2554
01:45:13,970 --> 01:45:12,119
up the money to get the project done and

2555
01:45:17,149 --> 01:45:13,980
I don't know if it's true but I've heard

2556
01:45:20,270 --> 01:45:17,159
that there was a split it was like 50 50

2557
01:45:22,970 --> 01:45:20,280
between him and Corbell

2558
01:45:24,770 --> 01:45:22,980
um but somebody can ask George Knapp but

2559
01:45:27,410 --> 01:45:24,780
the problem is that every time George

2560
01:45:29,510 --> 01:45:27,420
Knapp or Corbell give an interview they

2561
01:45:31,189 --> 01:45:29,520
get the softball circle jerk treatment

2562
01:45:33,109 --> 01:45:31,199
and people don't ask them hard questions

2563
01:45:34,550 --> 01:45:33,119
like what was the money Arrangement like

2564
01:45:37,250 --> 01:45:34,560
on this film

2565
01:45:37,260 --> 01:45:39,830
um

2566
01:45:45,470 --> 01:45:42,050
do you think that uh

2567
01:45:47,930 --> 01:45:45,480
it will ever be definitively proven uh

2568
01:45:50,689 --> 01:45:47,940
that Bob Lazar is full of it because I

2569
01:45:54,109 --> 01:45:50,699
mean we've got an Area 51 security guard

2570
01:45:56,270 --> 01:45:54,119
that says he was never on Area 51 now

2571
01:45:58,669 --> 01:45:56,280
we've recently got his former

2572
01:46:00,649 --> 01:45:58,679
supervisors at Los Alamos all confirming

2573
01:46:03,290 --> 01:46:00,659
he was just a tech he was never a

2574
01:46:05,209 --> 01:46:03,300
scientist it's like the story's falling

2575
01:46:07,430 --> 01:46:05,219
apart in slow motion but some people

2576
01:46:09,410 --> 01:46:07,440
still believe it right

2577
01:46:11,810 --> 01:46:09,420
yeah I mean

2578
01:46:13,490 --> 01:46:11,820
Lazar has never actually said it's he's

2579
01:46:15,830 --> 01:46:13,500
full of crap he's not gonna say that

2580
01:46:16,430 --> 01:46:15,840
maybe on his deathbed he'll say it but

2581
01:46:19,129 --> 01:46:16,440
um

2582
01:46:22,970 --> 01:46:19,139
one last cash in here's how I faked this

2583
01:46:25,189 --> 01:46:22,980
whole story right yeah but in in another

2584
01:46:26,689 --> 01:46:25,199
sense maybe he can't actually back out

2585
01:46:28,370 --> 01:46:26,699
of it now because then

2586
01:46:30,590 --> 01:46:28,380
he knows that he would be remembered as

2587
01:46:38,290 --> 01:46:30,600
the um the brothel dude who lied about

2588
01:46:43,970 --> 01:46:41,390
just like now because nap can't admit

2589
01:46:45,649 --> 01:46:43,980
that he um was fooled by Lazar because

2590
01:46:47,870 --> 01:46:45,659
he's meant to be this top you know hot

2591
01:46:51,470 --> 01:46:47,880
shot

2592
01:46:53,570 --> 01:46:51,480
he can't say that Lazar tricked him

2593
01:46:55,250 --> 01:46:53,580
um yeah and there was varying stories

2594
01:46:58,070 --> 01:46:55,260
about that remember

2595
01:46:59,290 --> 01:46:58,080
Bob Lazar once claimed that he just he

2596
01:47:02,510 --> 01:46:59,300
didn't

2597
01:47:04,729 --> 01:47:02,520
he only like put some computers in for

2598
01:47:07,370 --> 01:47:04,739
the horse he was just helping the [\h__\h]

2599
01:47:09,950 --> 01:47:07,380
he wasn't running the whorehouse or his

2600
01:47:12,169 --> 01:47:09,960
him and his wife had a 50 stake in the

2601
01:47:14,629 --> 01:47:12,179
whorehouse it was him his wife and The

2602
01:47:18,109 --> 01:47:14,639
Madam that owned the whorehouse and were

2603
01:47:19,010 --> 01:47:18,119
operating it and

2604
01:47:21,530 --> 01:47:19,020
um

2605
01:47:23,750 --> 01:47:21,540
George Knapp has said as much that Bob

2606
01:47:26,030 --> 01:47:23,760
Lazar came to him and said I bought half

2607
01:47:28,430 --> 01:47:26,040
the interest in a whorehouse and by the

2608
01:47:29,629 --> 01:47:28,440
way it's right on your block next to

2609
01:47:32,570 --> 01:47:29,639
your house

2610
01:47:35,510 --> 01:47:32,580
uh so there's even conflicting stories

2611
01:47:37,850 --> 01:47:35,520
to that but to me like even just running

2612
01:47:40,550 --> 01:47:37,860
a whorehouse means he's not a real

2613
01:47:42,410 --> 01:47:40,560
scientist because I don't know Lewis I

2614
01:47:44,570 --> 01:47:42,420
don't know any real scientist that wakes

2615
01:47:46,550 --> 01:47:44,580
up someday and says you know this

2616
01:47:48,530 --> 01:47:46,560
science stuff's kind of boring I'm gonna

2617
01:47:50,689 --> 01:47:48,540
run a whorehouse to make some extra

2618
01:47:52,609 --> 01:47:50,699
money they know it would just destroy

2619
01:47:54,350 --> 01:47:52,619
their credibility being involved in that

2620
01:47:56,510 --> 01:47:54,360
and they wouldn't do it if they were a

2621
01:47:58,729 --> 01:47:56,520
real scientist there's also the fact

2622
01:48:00,830 --> 01:47:58,739
that there's not one paper you can't

2623
01:48:04,310 --> 01:48:00,840
find me one scientific paper written by

2624
01:48:09,070 --> 01:48:04,320
Bob Lazar it's all you know and his

2625
01:48:13,669 --> 01:48:12,350
yeah but nap gets around it by saying

2626
01:48:16,250 --> 01:48:13,679
that maybe the government was looking

2627
01:48:18,770 --> 01:48:16,260
for somebody that they could discredit

2628
01:48:20,810 --> 01:48:18,780
if like yeah so in other words he's

2629
01:48:23,030 --> 01:48:20,820
admitting that Lazar is not credible and

2630
01:48:26,450 --> 01:48:23,040
therefore he's credible

2631
01:48:28,910 --> 01:48:26,460
yeah it's it's it's amazing and you know

2632
01:48:31,129 --> 01:48:28,920
even the stories about his I didn't know

2633
01:48:34,129 --> 01:48:31,139
this alien scientist told me all about

2634
01:48:36,410 --> 01:48:34,139
it even the stories of him uh having a

2635
01:48:38,570 --> 01:48:36,420
rocket bike as a child and then putting

2636
01:48:41,689 --> 01:48:38,580
a rocket engine in a car

2637
01:48:44,629 --> 01:48:41,699
uh he didn't build those engines his

2638
01:48:46,850 --> 01:48:44,639
neighbor where he grew up was famous for

2639
01:48:49,430 --> 01:48:46,860
being one of those hobby guys that built

2640
01:48:52,490 --> 01:48:49,440
rocket engines and then sold people

2641
01:48:55,370 --> 01:48:52,500
plans or parts to do it and it was

2642
01:48:57,830 --> 01:48:55,380
literally like right right next to his

2643
01:48:59,810 --> 01:48:57,840
house this rocket guy was that helped

2644
01:49:02,030 --> 01:48:59,820
him do all of that he didn't do that

2645
01:49:03,950 --> 01:49:02,040
himself so people people use that as

2646
01:49:05,810 --> 01:49:03,960
well Alice if he's not a scientist how

2647
01:49:07,729 --> 01:49:05,820
is he building rocket engines I could

2648
01:49:10,250 --> 01:49:07,739
build one give me enough time and

2649
01:49:13,149 --> 01:49:10,260
materials I could build one I'm not a

2650
01:49:20,209 --> 01:49:17,149
uh Dennis Mariani is that his name yeah

2651
01:49:22,609 --> 01:49:20,219
yeah I think his um company is still is

2652
01:49:25,609 --> 01:49:22,619
still selling like performance car

2653
01:49:28,189 --> 01:49:25,619
s and stuff like that probably yeah but

2654
01:49:30,770 --> 01:49:28,199
under under maybe his son's um Direction

2655
01:49:33,169 --> 01:49:30,780
but yeah um Dennis is like one of the

2656
01:49:34,129 --> 01:49:33,179
names in the Lazar story he says that he

2657
01:49:36,350 --> 01:49:34,139
was the

2658
01:49:38,090 --> 01:49:36,360
supervisor at S4

2659
01:49:39,590 --> 01:49:38,100
but this is something that Lazada does

2660
01:49:42,290 --> 01:49:39,600
he just like gets real people's names

2661
01:49:44,930 --> 01:49:42,300
and then he said oh yeah drop them into

2662
01:49:46,910 --> 01:49:44,940
the story yeah I don't know I'm sure I

2663
01:49:48,590 --> 01:49:46,920
heard solar martial or alien scientists

2664
01:49:50,330 --> 01:49:48,600
tell me that that name came from

2665
01:49:52,370 --> 01:49:50,340
somebody that used to be involved in

2666
01:49:54,649 --> 01:49:52,380
that fireworks event that he had every

2667
01:49:57,890 --> 01:49:54,659
year oh yeah yeah there was a guy named

2668
01:50:00,169 --> 01:49:57,900
that so right yeah interesting he just

2669
01:50:02,209 --> 01:50:00,179
pulls that stuff you know and it's

2670
01:50:03,950 --> 01:50:02,219
interesting that don't you think it's

2671
01:50:06,470 --> 01:50:03,960
interesting that Corbell has not

2672
01:50:09,649 --> 01:50:06,480
addressed any of the evidence like for

2673
01:50:11,510 --> 01:50:09,659
example like I said we we've got through

2674
01:50:13,689 --> 01:50:11,520
Victor colliero we got that interview

2675
01:50:17,450 --> 01:50:13,699
and we posted it here on our channel

2676
01:50:19,550 --> 01:50:17,460
that an Area 51 security guard said that

2677
01:50:21,470 --> 01:50:19,560
he contacted Knapp and said this guy

2678
01:50:23,689 --> 01:50:21,480
never worked at Area 51 he's never been

2679
01:50:25,970 --> 01:50:23,699
at Area 51 I have all the logs we

2680
01:50:27,590 --> 01:50:25,980
checked the day of your broadcast the

2681
01:50:29,570 --> 01:50:27,600
day of the second broadcast where they

2682
01:50:31,550 --> 01:50:29,580
revealed his name because you got to put

2683
01:50:34,129 --> 01:50:31,560
your real name in there to get in or off

2684
01:50:37,070 --> 01:50:34,139
of the Janet airline flights he was

2685
01:50:39,530 --> 01:50:37,080
never at step foot on Area 51 then we

2686
01:50:41,450 --> 01:50:39,540
have confirmation from all Bob's

2687
01:50:43,669 --> 01:50:41,460
supervisors several of them at Los

2688
01:50:45,830 --> 01:50:43,679
Alamos that he was never a scientist he

2689
01:50:47,450 --> 01:50:45,840
was a low-level technician the kind of

2690
01:50:50,030 --> 01:50:47,460
guy who would bring you a new keyboard

2691
01:50:52,430 --> 01:50:50,040
or mail so if he spilled something you

2692
01:50:56,570 --> 01:50:52,440
know that's what his responsibility was

2693
01:50:58,010 --> 01:50:56,580
and he also commented once that uh oh

2694
01:51:00,470 --> 01:50:58,020
that satellite dish I remember

2695
01:51:02,450 --> 01:51:00,480
installing that like that's what a

2696
01:51:05,930 --> 01:51:02,460
technician would do and install

2697
01:51:08,930 --> 01:51:05,940
satellite dishes a scientists especially

2698
01:51:11,870 --> 01:51:08,940
a senior level staff physicist at Los

2699
01:51:14,689 --> 01:51:11,880
Alamos is not putting satellite dishes

2700
01:51:16,669 --> 01:51:14,699
in himself they have people to do that

2701
01:51:19,010 --> 01:51:16,679
but isn't it interesting and what do you

2702
01:51:20,870 --> 01:51:19,020
think of the fact that Corbell has never

2703
01:51:22,850 --> 01:51:20,880
addressed all of like we have

2704
01:51:25,070 --> 01:51:22,860
overwhelming evidence here that Bob

2705
01:51:27,050 --> 01:51:25,080
Lazar lied about most of his story and

2706
01:51:29,570 --> 01:51:27,060
all of these things never step forward

2707
01:51:30,830 --> 01:51:29,580
on Area 51 was never a scientist at Los

2708
01:51:34,250 --> 01:51:30,840
Alamos

2709
01:51:36,169 --> 01:51:34,260
he never will address these things and

2710
01:51:37,970 --> 01:51:36,179
of course he blocks anybody that asks

2711
01:51:40,729 --> 01:51:37,980
him I've had 10 people send me

2712
01:51:44,209 --> 01:51:40,739
screenshots of them sending Corbell my

2713
01:51:48,649 --> 01:51:44,219
videos he blocks them he doesn't want

2714
01:51:52,609 --> 01:51:50,510
shouldn't he address that if he's if

2715
01:51:55,370 --> 01:51:52,619
he's really after the truth or is it

2716
01:51:58,129 --> 01:51:55,380
just is he just after money then

2717
01:52:00,050 --> 01:51:58,139
well he's after a narrative he wants to

2718
01:52:02,689 --> 01:52:00,060
because he's already got the truth in

2719
01:52:04,609 --> 01:52:02,699
his mind that it has to this story has

2720
01:52:06,229 --> 01:52:04,619
to be real and so anything that gets in

2721
01:52:08,930 --> 01:52:06,239
the way of that has to be

2722
01:52:11,990 --> 01:52:08,940
Sidelines or nipped in the bud

2723
01:52:15,890 --> 01:52:12,000
or napped in the bud

2724
01:52:21,850 --> 01:52:18,649
well I I for one was happy though to see

2725
01:52:24,470 --> 01:52:21,860
that uh Corbell after Bob Lazar

2726
01:52:26,930 --> 01:52:24,480
continued to shovel fake information

2727
01:52:30,770 --> 01:52:26,940
like these pyramid UFOs that are

2728
01:52:33,590 --> 01:52:30,780
completely fake and remember I have a I

2729
01:52:37,310 --> 01:52:33,600
have a clip here of him saying that

2730
01:52:40,729 --> 01:52:37,320
we're shooting down uaps every week you

2731
01:52:42,290 --> 01:52:40,739
know and and this it's it's a carnival

2732
01:52:45,410 --> 01:52:42,300
it's like a circus

2733
01:52:47,149 --> 01:52:45,420
there's never been any confirmation of

2734
01:52:49,970 --> 01:52:47,159
this stuff that he says and he still

2735
01:52:53,090 --> 01:52:49,980
claims that those that was not Boca

2736
01:52:55,970 --> 01:52:53,100
those were pyramid-shaped spaceships

2737
01:52:59,390 --> 01:52:55,980
and the government's lying about it

2738
01:53:01,129 --> 01:52:59,400
no Mick West already destroyed that

2739
01:53:03,890 --> 01:53:01,139
yeah

2740
01:53:05,689 --> 01:53:03,900
I mean clearly it's bokeh

2741
01:53:08,149 --> 01:53:05,699
um

2742
01:53:09,709 --> 01:53:08,159
yeah and lazada's education that Patty's

2743
01:53:12,050 --> 01:53:09,719
mentioning

2744
01:53:13,669 --> 01:53:12,060
yeah even George Knapp admits that

2745
01:53:18,590 --> 01:53:13,679
lazar's full of crap when it comes to

2746
01:53:21,290 --> 01:53:18,600
his so-called MIT and Caltech uh degrees

2747
01:53:23,750 --> 01:53:21,300
um Lazar also he didn't just lie about

2748
01:53:25,250 --> 01:53:23,760
having those degrees he also used the

2749
01:53:28,070 --> 01:53:25,260
names of professors who never actually

2750
01:53:30,530 --> 01:53:28,080
worked there they worked at the at the

2751
01:53:32,570 --> 01:53:30,540
junior Pierce Junior College hop inside

2752
01:53:35,030 --> 01:53:32,580
or whatever yeah he mentioned that and

2753
01:53:37,550 --> 01:53:35,040
you know uh I don't know if you know

2754
01:53:39,709 --> 01:53:37,560
this Lewis but I used to talk to and

2755
01:53:43,250 --> 01:53:39,719
even be friendly with uh

2756
01:53:46,250 --> 01:53:43,260
corbel up until his documentary came out

2757
01:53:49,370 --> 01:53:46,260
and then I did a piece where I ripped it

2758
01:53:51,649 --> 01:53:49,380
apart and I said what what the point of

2759
01:53:54,830 --> 01:53:51,659
the piece that I did was is that nobody

2760
01:53:57,530 --> 01:53:54,840
on Earth has ever been given access to

2761
01:54:00,649 --> 01:53:57,540
Bob lazar's mother and sister but

2762
01:54:02,990 --> 01:54:00,659
Corbell did for this documentary and and

2763
01:54:05,750 --> 01:54:03,000
what I said was why wouldn't he ask his

2764
01:54:07,189 --> 01:54:05,760
mother did you attend his MIT graduation

2765
01:54:10,310 --> 01:54:07,199
because

2766
01:54:13,370 --> 01:54:10,320
Louis like in the United States

2767
01:54:16,490 --> 01:54:13,380
you know Caltech MIT these are hugely

2768
01:54:19,010 --> 01:54:16,500
prestigious schools if your son gets a

2769
01:54:21,229 --> 01:54:19,020
degree you're going to their graduation

2770
01:54:23,510 --> 01:54:21,239
you're going to be there when they get

2771
01:54:24,530 --> 01:54:23,520
their diploma or whatever you know their

2772
01:54:26,870 --> 01:54:24,540
degree

2773
01:54:29,030 --> 01:54:26,880
and nobody's ever been given access to

2774
01:54:32,030 --> 01:54:29,040
Bob lazar's mother and he was also she

2775
01:54:34,850 --> 01:54:32,040
was in the film he also got access to

2776
01:54:36,850 --> 01:54:34,860
his sister he didn't ask them about the

2777
01:54:39,410 --> 01:54:36,860
education and I thought

2778
01:54:41,810 --> 01:54:39,420
either he didn't ask because he knew

2779
01:54:43,250 --> 01:54:41,820
that was all fake or he did and he cut

2780
01:54:45,830 --> 01:54:43,260
it from the film because he didn't like

2781
01:54:47,510 --> 01:54:45,840
the answer you know if I got access to

2782
01:54:49,370 --> 01:54:47,520
Bob lazar's mom and sister that would be

2783
01:54:51,470 --> 01:54:49,380
the first question I would ask them can

2784
01:54:53,629 --> 01:54:51,480
you verify that he actually went to MIT

2785
01:54:56,149 --> 01:54:53,639
and Caltech did you attend a graduation

2786
01:54:58,310 --> 01:54:56,159
you know or ask Mom do you got any

2787
01:55:00,229 --> 01:54:58,320
cancel checks that you sent to the did

2788
01:55:02,810 --> 01:55:00,239
you help him pay for it like there's got

2789
01:55:04,609 --> 01:55:02,820
to be some evidence or proof but we

2790
01:55:07,490 --> 01:55:04,619
didn't get that and Corbell lost his

2791
01:55:09,890 --> 01:55:07,500
mind and he was on some podcast yelling

2792
01:55:12,050 --> 01:55:09,900
at me like some guy he wouldn't even say

2793
01:55:13,550 --> 01:55:12,060
my name some guy said I didn't ask how

2794
01:55:15,830 --> 01:55:13,560
do you know what I asked him where's it

2795
01:55:18,950 --> 01:55:15,840
at where's the film Corbell play it for

2796
01:55:21,590 --> 01:55:18,960
us you know he didn't ask or he did ask

2797
01:55:23,510 --> 01:55:21,600
and he cut it because even the ma even

2798
01:55:26,689 --> 01:55:23,520
his mother will say he's lying about

2799
01:55:29,270 --> 01:55:26,699
that your mom knows Louis would your mom

2800
01:55:32,750 --> 01:55:29,280
know if you went to college and where

2801
01:55:34,430 --> 01:55:32,760
she would so would mine everybody's mom

2802
01:55:36,290 --> 01:55:34,440
would know if we went to college and

2803
01:55:39,830 --> 01:55:36,300
where why would you not ask his mom

2804
01:55:41,990 --> 01:55:39,840
about his his education he didn't or he

2805
01:55:44,810 --> 01:55:42,000
did and he didn't like the answer cut

2806
01:55:48,350 --> 01:55:44,820
cut snip snip we'll just leave that out

2807
01:55:51,590 --> 01:55:48,360
it's the Lie by Omission right yeah

2808
01:55:53,810 --> 01:55:51,600
that's one of the favorite tactics

2809
01:55:55,430 --> 01:55:53,820
um Lazar also

2810
01:55:57,830 --> 01:55:55,440
lied about

2811
01:56:00,169 --> 01:55:57,840
the obviously it didn't get any degrees

2812
01:56:02,149 --> 01:56:00,179
but um he says that the title of one of

2813
01:56:03,590 --> 01:56:02,159
the degrees was about

2814
01:56:06,109 --> 01:56:03,600
um well the topic was about

2815
01:56:08,750 --> 01:56:06,119
magnetohydrodynamics

2816
01:56:11,390 --> 01:56:08,760
he said he wrote his thesis on that yeah

2817
01:56:13,490 --> 01:56:11,400
and you can't find any thesis yeah that

2818
01:56:17,750 --> 01:56:13,500
was a topic that was doing the rounds in

2819
01:56:20,030 --> 01:56:17,760
the 70s and 80s like if you watched um

2820
01:56:21,649 --> 01:56:20,040
if you watch some science shows or read

2821
01:56:24,470 --> 01:56:21,659
science magazines people were talking

2822
01:56:27,709 --> 01:56:24,480
about that topic yeah as a propulsion

2823
01:56:29,390 --> 01:56:27,719
mechanism for the UFOs

2824
01:56:30,470 --> 01:56:29,400
um and so like he obviously got the idea

2825
01:56:33,169 --> 01:56:30,480
from that

2826
01:56:35,510 --> 01:56:33,179
and yet he says why would they hire me I

2827
01:56:37,550 --> 01:56:35,520
don't know I'm just some you know

2828
01:56:39,470 --> 01:56:37,560
insignificant guy I don't know why they

2829
01:56:42,290 --> 01:56:39,480
hired me even though he claims to have

2830
01:56:44,810 --> 01:56:42,300
an MIT master's degree in a UFO related

2831
01:56:48,109 --> 01:56:44,820
topic yeah

2832
01:56:50,510 --> 01:56:48,119
yeah and I think that I'm almost sure

2833
01:56:52,550 --> 01:56:50,520
that the degree that he claimed that he

2834
01:56:54,169 --> 01:56:52,560
got from Caltech they didn't have a

2835
01:56:56,689 --> 01:56:54,179
degree in that at the time he would have

2836
01:56:58,310 --> 01:56:56,699
went there at all they did not have a

2837
01:57:00,590 --> 01:56:58,320
master's program and I think it was

2838
01:57:03,350 --> 01:57:00,600
Electronics you know Electronics

2839
01:57:06,050 --> 01:57:03,360
technology yeah they did not have a

2840
01:57:08,149 --> 01:57:06,060
master's program in that field at the

2841
01:57:10,129 --> 01:57:08,159
time he claims he went there so that

2842
01:57:14,450 --> 01:57:10,139
might be some indication that he made it

2843
01:57:17,209 --> 01:57:14,460
all up you know yep yeah I always Louis

2844
01:57:20,570 --> 01:57:17,219
when you know you see these articles and

2845
01:57:23,870 --> 01:57:20,580
and they all do this they say former

2846
01:57:26,689 --> 01:57:23,880
government scientists and I lose my mind

2847
01:57:28,970 --> 01:57:26,699
because that's two lies in one little

2848
01:57:31,189 --> 01:57:28,980
statement there's no proof he ever works

2849
01:57:33,470 --> 01:57:31,199
for the government and there's no proof

2850
01:57:37,010 --> 01:57:33,480
at all that he's an actual scientist or

2851
01:57:38,870 --> 01:57:37,020
ever was a scientist so two lies in that

2852
01:57:41,030 --> 01:57:38,880
one little statement and when you see a

2853
01:57:43,370 --> 01:57:41,040
pro-lazar article written in the media

2854
01:57:46,129 --> 01:57:43,380
they always say that former government

2855
01:57:47,570 --> 01:57:46,139
scientist or former government scientist

2856
01:57:50,930 --> 01:57:47,580
whistleblower

2857
01:57:53,689 --> 01:57:50,940
it drives me crazy

2858
01:57:56,270 --> 01:57:53,699
and interestingly I email people like

2859
01:57:58,609 --> 01:57:56,280
authors you know from different news

2860
01:58:00,589 --> 01:57:58,619
outlets that do that and not one of them

2861
01:58:03,890 --> 01:58:00,599
in the 10 times that I've emailed people

2862
01:58:06,530 --> 01:58:03,900
ever got back to me and said oh I wasn't

2863
01:58:09,290 --> 01:58:06,540
aware or even acknowledge the email that

2864
01:58:11,450 --> 01:58:09,300
that I sent them you know I I think they

2865
01:58:13,129 --> 01:58:11,460
don't like getting caught like gee maybe

2866
01:58:16,250 --> 01:58:13,139
I should have researched this before I

2867
01:58:18,350 --> 01:58:16,260
said that you know right right that's

2868
01:58:20,510 --> 01:58:18,360
reminiscence of that newspaper clipping

2869
01:58:23,089 --> 01:58:20,520
that lazada's um

2870
01:58:26,510 --> 01:58:23,099
supporters always bring out to

2871
01:58:28,070 --> 01:58:26,520
supposedly prove that he was a physicist

2872
01:58:29,390 --> 01:58:28,080
um the San what was it the something

2873
01:58:33,649 --> 01:58:29,400
monitor

2874
01:58:35,870 --> 01:58:33,659
yeah yeah article and that guy never

2875
01:58:36,589 --> 01:58:35,880
vetted he never vetted statements he

2876
01:58:38,689 --> 01:58:36,599
just

2877
01:58:41,330 --> 01:58:38,699
believed him and put him in yeah because

2878
01:58:42,890 --> 01:58:41,340
you're not gonna if somebody if some guy

2879
01:58:44,750 --> 01:58:42,900
um has got a rocket powered or a

2880
01:58:45,649 --> 01:58:44,760
jet-powered car you're probably not

2881
01:58:47,450 --> 01:58:45,659
gonna

2882
01:58:48,649 --> 01:58:47,460
you know take the time to make sure that

2883
01:58:49,550 --> 01:58:48,659
he's actually a physicist you're

2884
01:58:51,830 --> 01:58:49,560
probably just going to believe him

2885
01:58:54,669 --> 01:58:51,840
because most people don't

2886
01:58:57,109 --> 01:58:54,679
um build jet-powered cars

2887
01:58:59,570 --> 01:58:57,119
yeah and journalists have got better

2888
01:59:01,729 --> 01:58:59,580
things to do anyway uh Lewis is here

2889
01:59:04,310 --> 01:59:01,739
from unidentified celebrity review and

2890
01:59:05,870 --> 01:59:04,320
he asked has the report dropped not that

2891
01:59:07,910 --> 01:59:05,880
I'm aware of

2892
01:59:10,609 --> 01:59:07,920
um and uh

2893
01:59:12,589 --> 01:59:10,619
but don't worry Louis because there's 20

2894
01:59:15,530 --> 01:59:12,599
different people on Twitter saying

2895
01:59:17,629 --> 01:59:15,540
what's really going on with it one

2896
01:59:19,729 --> 01:59:17,639
person says that there's proof of alien

2897
01:59:21,229 --> 01:59:19,739
technology in it and the government are

2898
01:59:24,169 --> 01:59:21,239
still trying to figure out how to

2899
01:59:26,930 --> 01:59:24,179
release it without causing panic one

2900
01:59:29,270 --> 01:59:26,940
person says that the that the Congress

2901
01:59:31,430 --> 01:59:29,280
was given a version of it but they

2902
01:59:33,169 --> 01:59:31,440
didn't like that it was sloppily written

2903
01:59:35,030 --> 01:59:33,179
or didn't provide enough proof or

2904
01:59:37,550 --> 01:59:35,040
evidence so they sent it back and want

2905
01:59:40,189 --> 01:59:37,560
it Rewritten one person says this one

2906
01:59:42,830 --> 01:59:40,199
person says that but the credible

2907
01:59:45,050 --> 01:59:42,840
sources that you can trust and and I do

2908
01:59:47,450 --> 01:59:45,060
trust him John from The Black Vault has

2909
01:59:49,790 --> 01:59:47,460
like written statements from people

2910
01:59:51,890 --> 01:59:49,800
within the government that say it hasn't

2911
01:59:54,589 --> 01:59:51,900
been released yet to either members of

2912
01:59:56,570 --> 01:59:54,599
Congress the classified version is not

2913
01:59:58,970 --> 01:59:56,580
released yet it's just not released yet

2914
02:00:00,770 --> 01:59:58,980
we don't know what's going on but I do

2915
02:00:02,810 --> 02:00:00,780
think it's interesting that they were

2916
02:00:05,570 --> 02:00:02,820
supposed to release it according to it

2917
02:00:07,729 --> 02:00:05,580
was a law that they had to and now that

2918
02:00:08,689 --> 02:00:07,739
they haven't released it nobody knows

2919
02:00:09,649 --> 02:00:08,699
why

2920
02:00:12,169 --> 02:00:09,659
foreign

2921
02:00:13,790 --> 02:00:12,179
I don't know why I haven't taken the

2922
02:00:16,250 --> 02:00:13,800
time to uh

2923
02:00:18,770 --> 02:00:16,260
I haven't taken the time to call around

2924
02:00:21,290 --> 02:00:18,780
or email around and try to get some

2925
02:00:24,410 --> 02:00:21,300
statements about where it is when it

2926
02:00:26,570 --> 02:00:24,420
will be out what what is the delay about

2927
02:00:29,149 --> 02:00:26,580
if you listen to some of these True

2928
02:00:30,830 --> 02:00:29,159
Believers on UFO Twitter there's all

2929
02:00:33,109 --> 02:00:30,840
kinds of stuff going on Louis there's

2930
02:00:35,390 --> 02:00:33,119
proof of alien technology somebody said

2931
02:00:40,510 --> 02:00:35,400
there'll be proof of biological you know

2932
02:00:43,189 --> 02:00:40,520
uh evidence of extraterrestrial life and

2933
02:00:45,709 --> 02:00:43,199
none of that is true it's going to be a

2934
02:00:47,209 --> 02:00:45,719
part two of the Director of National

2935
02:00:48,890 --> 02:00:47,219
intelligences

2936
02:00:50,629 --> 02:00:48,900
um I think it's going to be a nothing

2937
02:00:57,530 --> 02:00:50,639
burger what do you think

2938
02:01:03,229 --> 02:01:00,050
yeah I I don't I don't know what's going

2939
02:01:05,330 --> 02:01:03,239
on with that and all the people that are

2940
02:01:07,669 --> 02:01:05,340
like freaking out and pissed off that

2941
02:01:10,189 --> 02:01:07,679
it's not out yet I think that they're

2942
02:01:12,649 --> 02:01:10,199
all really expecting it to have some

2943
02:01:14,570 --> 02:01:12,659
like important information in it and I

2944
02:01:16,129 --> 02:01:14,580
think that's naive I don't I think it's

2945
02:01:18,050 --> 02:01:16,139
going to be another nothing Burger so

2946
02:01:19,550 --> 02:01:18,060
who cares when it comes out like I don't

2947
02:01:22,310 --> 02:01:19,560
care that it's not out yet there's not

2948
02:01:26,450 --> 02:01:22,320
gonna be anything of value in it or very

2949
02:01:31,129 --> 02:01:29,330
I think that um

2950
02:01:34,729 --> 02:01:31,139
there is something interesting going on

2951
02:01:36,530 --> 02:01:34,739
it's to do with uh aerial platforms and

2952
02:01:38,149 --> 02:01:36,540
electronic warfare

2953
02:01:39,649 --> 02:01:38,159
and probably things that they can't

2954
02:01:41,870 --> 02:01:39,659
fully

2955
02:01:43,070 --> 02:01:41,880
admit to because there's such sensitive

2956
02:01:46,209 --> 02:01:43,080
areas of

2957
02:01:50,570 --> 02:01:46,219
military technology

2958
02:01:53,030 --> 02:01:50,580
in the current right you know uh contest

2959
02:01:54,530 --> 02:01:53,040
with China and Russia there are things

2960
02:01:57,649 --> 02:01:54,540
that which are probably

2961
02:01:59,330 --> 02:01:57,659
just very sensitive and nobody

2962
02:02:02,089 --> 02:01:59,340
really wants to just come out and talk

2963
02:02:04,490 --> 02:02:02,099
about it because we're dealing with

2964
02:02:07,729 --> 02:02:04,500
Next Generation you know

2965
02:02:09,589 --> 02:02:07,739
Electronics or whatever and I I agree

2966
02:02:11,390 --> 02:02:09,599
with you and isn't it interesting that

2967
02:02:13,550 --> 02:02:11,400
now the government is all but admitting

2968
02:02:15,709 --> 02:02:13,560
that a lot of these things are Chinese

2969
02:02:18,530 --> 02:02:15,719
drones

2970
02:02:21,290 --> 02:02:18,540
and that to be honest Lewis is a

2971
02:02:25,010 --> 02:02:21,300
stunning admission to me because that

2972
02:02:27,470 --> 02:02:25,020
would mean that all of our defense or

2973
02:02:30,169 --> 02:02:27,480
surveillance capabilities radar systems

2974
02:02:32,870 --> 02:02:30,179
whatever are wholly inadequate to stop

2975
02:02:36,290 --> 02:02:32,880
foreign adversaries from surveilling our

2976
02:02:38,629 --> 02:02:36,300
military equipment and that is a big

2977
02:02:40,370 --> 02:02:38,639
problem it's a big problem considering

2978
02:02:42,010 --> 02:02:40,380
the trillions of dollars in the defense

2979
02:02:45,229 --> 02:02:42,020
budget

2980
02:02:46,609 --> 02:02:45,239
and here we have uh out there channel is

2981
02:02:48,770 --> 02:02:46,619
saying that third phase of moon are

2982
02:02:50,510 --> 02:02:48,780
promoting an in an interview with

2983
02:02:53,089 --> 02:02:50,520
Congress guy tonight and that would be

2984
02:02:55,490 --> 02:02:53,099
Tim Ten Percent I think that guy's name

2985
02:02:56,870 --> 02:02:55,500
is and that's great because here's where

2986
02:02:58,729 --> 02:02:56,880
I'm going to do Lewis I'm going to call

2987
02:03:00,350 --> 02:02:58,739
that congressman's office and I'm going

2988
02:03:03,830 --> 02:03:00,360
to say do you know you just gave an

2989
02:03:05,870 --> 02:03:03,840
interview to the biggest fake frauds on

2990
02:03:08,270 --> 02:03:05,880
YouTube that have been caught over a

2991
02:03:12,589 --> 02:03:08,280
hundred times faking things

2992
02:03:14,270 --> 02:03:12,599
faking UFO videos faking alien creatures

2993
02:03:18,050 --> 02:03:14,280
they even use one of their four-year-old

2994
02:03:19,669 --> 02:03:18,060
sons in a scam like here son stand here

2995
02:03:21,229 --> 02:03:19,679
and pretend you see an alien they really

2996
02:03:24,530 --> 02:03:21,239
did that Lewis and then they put an

2997
02:03:26,870 --> 02:03:24,540
alien in in CGI that he was in the frame

2998
02:03:28,910 --> 02:03:26,880
with and then they put it on YouTube as

2999
02:03:31,430 --> 02:03:28,920
a real alien encounter

3000
02:03:33,890 --> 02:03:31,440
and now they're getting in interviews

3001
02:03:35,270 --> 02:03:33,900
with congressmen but I can't get an

3002
02:03:37,490 --> 02:03:35,280
interview with the cup with the same

3003
02:03:40,250 --> 02:03:37,500
Congressman so I'm going to call that

3004
02:03:42,530 --> 02:03:40,260
congressman's office and inform him of

3005
02:03:46,330 --> 02:03:42,540
who he's giving interviews to

3006
02:03:52,910 --> 02:03:49,250
news flash Blake and print they don't

3007
02:03:55,189 --> 02:03:52,920
tell Congressman anything yeah well I

3008
02:03:57,890 --> 02:03:55,199
want to thank you for being here I'm

3009
02:04:00,350 --> 02:03:57,900
looking forward to you uh digging into

3010
02:04:03,649 --> 02:04:00,360
Skinwalker maybe can you come back once

3011
02:04:05,570 --> 02:04:03,659
you've got like a better handle like

3012
02:04:07,550 --> 02:04:05,580
you've reached all your conclusions and

3013
02:04:10,010 --> 02:04:07,560
have some data to share

3014
02:04:11,410 --> 02:04:10,020
yeah unless Google pays me off and then

3015
02:04:13,790 --> 02:04:11,420
there's no chance

3016
02:04:16,430 --> 02:04:13,800
let me ask you a question let's be the

3017
02:04:19,550 --> 02:04:16,440
last question because this is important

3018
02:04:22,010 --> 02:04:19,560
um I didn't like Fugal didn't follow him

3019
02:04:25,430 --> 02:04:22,020
didn't care what he had to say ever but

3020
02:04:29,689 --> 02:04:25,440
I saw that Stephen Green Street piece on

3021
02:04:32,390 --> 02:04:29,699
fugle and I think that piece humanized

3022
02:04:34,010 --> 02:04:32,400
him to me and it made me like him a

3023
02:04:36,350 --> 02:04:34,020
little bit because I'm a science fiction

3024
02:04:38,830 --> 02:04:36,360
nerd and I you know I don't have this

3025
02:04:42,229 --> 02:04:38,840
kind of money you know to collect

3026
02:04:45,550 --> 02:04:42,239
memorabilia but it just kind of made it

3027
02:04:47,570 --> 02:04:45,560
kind of made me go you know if I met him

3028
02:04:48,950 --> 02:04:47,580
independent of all this I would like

3029
02:04:50,390 --> 02:04:48,960
that guy I would hang out with that guy

3030
02:04:52,910 --> 02:04:50,400
like that would be a guy I could go

3031
02:04:55,310 --> 02:04:52,920
watch movies at his house and yeah and

3032
02:04:56,689 --> 02:04:55,320
talk about science fiction so I followed

3033
02:04:58,609 --> 02:04:56,699
him on Twitter and I'm trying to give

3034
02:05:00,890 --> 02:04:58,619
him the benefit of the doubt because

3035
02:05:03,169 --> 02:05:00,900
that piece made me sort of like him and

3036
02:05:06,589 --> 02:05:03,179
identify with him more did it do that

3037
02:05:08,209 --> 02:05:06,599
for you or is it just it did

3038
02:05:09,470 --> 02:05:08,219
um but then um

3039
02:05:11,450 --> 02:05:09,480
you know you have to remind yourself

3040
02:05:12,649 --> 02:05:11,460
that this should be about science if

3041
02:05:15,109 --> 02:05:12,659
you're making

3042
02:05:19,129 --> 02:05:15,119
truth claims about alien visitations and

3043
02:05:19,970 --> 02:05:19,139
UFOs or portals with a dino beavers

3044
02:05:22,850 --> 02:05:19,980
um

3045
02:05:25,250 --> 02:05:22,860
so I mean I I think the

3046
02:05:27,109 --> 02:05:25,260
the sincerity is there to an extent

3047
02:05:29,089 --> 02:05:27,119
although I think there may be some more

3048
02:05:30,250 --> 02:05:29,099
shady things going on that Erica Luke's

3049
02:05:34,910 --> 02:05:30,260
and others have

3050
02:05:35,570 --> 02:05:34,920
you think but uh you know I think that

3051
02:05:37,310 --> 02:05:35,580
um

3052
02:05:39,470 --> 02:05:37,320
ultimately it has to be about the

3053
02:05:43,550 --> 02:05:39,480
science and uh evidence if that's not

3054
02:05:46,250 --> 02:05:43,560
there then everything else is just fluff

3055
02:05:49,490 --> 02:05:46,260
yeah I well that I agree with you and

3056
02:05:50,750 --> 02:05:49,500
listen I'm a bad show host you have a

3057
02:05:52,370 --> 02:05:50,760
YouTube channel

3058
02:05:54,890 --> 02:05:52,380
do you have to tell people how they can

3059
02:05:57,290 --> 02:05:54,900
find you and follow you uh just type in

3060
02:05:59,870 --> 02:05:57,300
Luis kayatano into YouTube and I think

3061
02:06:02,750 --> 02:05:59,880
I'm I'm the the most popular Luis

3062
02:06:04,370 --> 02:06:02,760
cayetano uh on this pretty common name

3063
02:06:07,010 --> 02:06:04,380
that's weird right

3064
02:06:09,229 --> 02:06:07,020
yeah I've got about only about 170

3065
02:06:11,629 --> 02:06:09,239
something subscribers right now

3066
02:06:14,390 --> 02:06:11,639
um well hold on one second you know what

3067
02:06:16,550 --> 02:06:14,400
then just stay stand by with me I'm

3068
02:06:17,410 --> 02:06:16,560
gonna find it and we're gonna put it in

3069
02:06:23,750 --> 02:06:17,420
the

3070
02:06:27,169 --> 02:06:23,760
yes but I'm going to put it right now in

3071
02:06:28,850 --> 02:06:27,179
the live chat I found I found it one

3072
02:06:31,850 --> 02:06:28,860
second let me just go over to my Channel

3073
02:06:34,609 --> 02:06:31,860
friends everybody all you guys ask me

3074
02:06:37,370 --> 02:06:34,619
all the time the my audience gets

3075
02:06:38,629 --> 02:06:37,380
frustrated with me Louis they go you're

3076
02:06:40,790 --> 02:06:38,639
always saying that this guy's not

3077
02:06:42,709 --> 02:06:40,800
credible this guy's not credible why

3078
02:06:45,830 --> 02:06:42,719
don't you tell us who is Credible and

3079
02:06:47,629 --> 02:06:45,840
who's worthy of listening to and and I'm

3080
02:06:50,149 --> 02:06:47,639
here to tell you friends the guest

3081
02:06:52,970 --> 02:06:50,159
tonight is one of those people I have

3082
02:06:57,649 --> 02:06:52,980
you know I can count the credible people

3083
02:06:59,149 --> 02:06:57,659
left in this thing on two hands so uh if

3084
02:07:01,550 --> 02:06:59,159
you want to follow somebody that's

3085
02:07:04,669 --> 02:07:01,560
credible that's not that does fact-based

3086
02:07:07,609 --> 02:07:04,679
evidence-based research and is not lying

3087
02:07:09,290 --> 02:07:07,619
to you or telling you fairy tales he's

3088
02:07:12,229 --> 02:07:09,300
one of those people that you should be

3089
02:07:15,109 --> 02:07:12,239
following let me see here why is it uh

3090
02:07:17,510 --> 02:07:15,119
we're like lagging here so I'm gonna put

3091
02:07:22,370 --> 02:07:17,520
a link to Lewis we'll see if we can't

3092
02:07:24,890 --> 02:07:22,380
get you a bump link to Louis uh

3093
02:07:26,990 --> 02:07:24,900
to Lewis YouTube

3094
02:07:28,430 --> 02:07:27,000
and I'm sorry and I will put it in the

3095
02:07:31,010 --> 02:07:28,440
description of the video so if you're

3096
02:07:32,750 --> 02:07:31,020
watching on the replay you want to go

3097
02:07:34,250 --> 02:07:32,760
over and subscribe to them please do

3098
02:07:36,410 --> 02:07:34,260
support the people that aren't out there

3099
02:07:43,129 --> 02:07:36,420
just huckstering fairy tales and giving

3100
02:07:46,970 --> 02:07:45,350
now if you start selling fake stories

3101
02:07:50,950 --> 02:07:46,980
tomorrow Lewis I'm going to be upset

3102
02:07:53,450 --> 02:07:50,960
with doing that oh yeah yeah

3103
02:07:55,729 --> 02:07:53,460
wait a few months before you start

3104
02:07:57,770 --> 02:07:55,739
selling the fake stuff okay so that I

3105
02:08:00,410 --> 02:07:57,780
don't look foolish for telling people to

3106
02:08:02,330 --> 02:08:00,420
follow you uh yeah and I've just

3107
02:08:06,290 --> 02:08:02,340
subscribed as well I'm going over there

3108
02:08:08,330 --> 02:08:06,300
now and uh I'm subscribing as well wait

3109
02:08:10,129 --> 02:08:08,340
a minute I'm gonna do it right now and I

3110
02:08:14,510 --> 02:08:10,139
will put the link in the description of

3111
02:08:16,609 --> 02:08:14,520
the video and I'm also going to be uh

3112
02:08:19,310 --> 02:08:16,619
oh yeah and I'm also going to be

3113
02:08:21,470 --> 02:08:19,320
tweeting it out later tonight we gotta

3114
02:08:24,050 --> 02:08:21,480
support the good people that aren't

3115
02:08:26,030 --> 02:08:24,060
lying to us there's so few people that

3116
02:08:28,250 --> 02:08:26,040
do good work and thank you Lewis for

3117
02:08:30,350 --> 02:08:28,260
being one of them

3118
02:08:32,570 --> 02:08:30,360
you're welcome all right I'm going to

3119
02:08:34,430 --> 02:08:32,580
throw you out of here you have a good

3120
02:08:36,649 --> 02:08:34,440
evening and please do come back and

3121
02:08:38,450 --> 02:08:36,659
let's do a show on Skinwalker because I

3122
02:08:40,609 --> 02:08:38,460
have some things to share too that many

3123
02:08:42,589 --> 02:08:40,619
people have never heard before

3124
02:08:44,870 --> 02:08:42,599
I'd like that

3125
02:08:46,669 --> 02:08:44,880
thanks Steven all right thanks you have

3126
02:08:48,589 --> 02:08:46,679
a good evening and there we have it

3127
02:08:51,530 --> 02:08:48,599
friends so uh

3128
02:08:53,930 --> 02:08:51,540
you all guys always ask me and to be

3129
02:08:54,890 --> 02:08:53,940
honest besides John from The Black Vault

3130
02:09:00,410 --> 02:08:54,900
and

3131
02:09:02,570 --> 02:09:00,420
others uh Jeff uh from strange Recon is

3132
02:09:05,209 --> 02:09:02,580
good uh some of the people that I would

3133
02:09:07,910 --> 02:09:05,219
trust as credible are good researchers

3134
02:09:10,550 --> 02:09:07,920
don't really have their own

3135
02:09:11,330 --> 02:09:10,560
shows or channels they just kind of do

3136
02:09:13,070 --> 02:09:11,340
it

3137
02:09:14,810 --> 02:09:13,080
um Steve long is here in the chat as

3138
02:09:18,649 --> 02:09:14,820
well tonight

3139
02:09:20,390 --> 02:09:18,659
so uh we're gonna check in with the uh

3140
02:09:22,430 --> 02:09:20,400
I'm checking in with the live streams

3141
02:09:25,010 --> 02:09:22,440
and it looks like tonight was a major

3142
02:09:27,709 --> 02:09:25,020
success all of the all of the stream

3143
02:09:30,109 --> 02:09:27,719
destinations appear to be healthy and

3144
02:09:32,270 --> 02:09:30,119
monitoring on another computer here with

3145
02:09:35,390 --> 02:09:32,280
graphs and

3146
02:09:37,310 --> 02:09:35,400
um you know uh bandwidth and looking at

3147
02:09:39,470 --> 02:09:37,320
it and it looks like everything is

3148
02:09:42,950 --> 02:09:39,480
working so

3149
02:09:44,689 --> 02:09:42,960
um thank the Techno Gods because we

3150
02:09:46,910 --> 02:09:44,699
tonight friends are

3151
02:09:50,149 --> 02:09:46,920
for the first time streaming to seven

3152
02:09:52,430 --> 02:09:50,159
locations all at once uh which is a

3153
02:09:54,770 --> 02:09:52,440
great thing that means I I instantly

3154
02:09:57,770 --> 02:09:54,780
gave us a bigger bull horn here so we're

3155
02:10:00,350 --> 02:09:57,780
streaming this seven locations all at

3156
02:10:02,629 --> 02:10:00,360
once and it appears that everything is

3157
02:10:05,450 --> 02:10:02,639
working tonight and uh the streams are

3158
02:10:09,050 --> 02:10:05,460
up the streams look good sound good

3159
02:10:11,930 --> 02:10:09,060
and uh interestingly we abandoned twitch

3160
02:10:15,229 --> 02:10:11,940
a while ago because we only had so many

3161
02:10:17,089 --> 02:10:15,239
uh we could only stream to three at once

3162
02:10:18,070 --> 02:10:17,099
and we moved to Twitter instead of

3163
02:10:22,669 --> 02:10:18,080
twitch

3164
02:10:25,550 --> 02:10:22,679
tonight than we ever had on Twitch

3165
02:10:28,310 --> 02:10:25,560
before I think there was 12 people uh

3166
02:10:30,229 --> 02:10:28,320
simultaneous viewers uh we used to get

3167
02:10:32,750 --> 02:10:30,239
one or two when we were on Twitch before

3168
02:10:35,570 --> 02:10:32,760
so that is great great news good to hear

3169
02:10:38,209 --> 02:10:35,580
it and and welcome new twitch friends

3170
02:10:40,490 --> 02:10:38,219
and uh we've got people over on Rumble

3171
02:10:43,570 --> 02:10:40,500
several people over there we've got

3172
02:10:46,910 --> 02:10:43,580
people uh watching on Odyssey right now

3173
02:10:51,169 --> 02:10:46,920
uh people watching on Facebook YouTube

3174
02:10:52,609 --> 02:10:51,179
and more and Twitter as well so uh I

3175
02:10:54,589 --> 02:10:52,619
want to thank each and every one of you

3176
02:10:56,570 --> 02:10:54,599
for joining us I want to thank each and

3177
02:10:59,990 --> 02:10:56,580
every one of you kind and generous

3178
02:11:01,729 --> 02:11:00,000
benefactors and we welcome new friends

3179
02:11:04,430 --> 02:11:01,739
from these new platforms that we're

3180
02:11:07,370 --> 02:11:04,440
going to be streaming uh simultaneously

3181
02:11:10,370 --> 02:11:07,380
to starting today

3182
02:11:12,169 --> 02:11:10,380
um so let me just check in here uh we

3183
02:11:16,370 --> 02:11:12,179
did thank Leah for the kind and generous

3184
02:11:18,410 --> 02:11:16,380
dollar 99 twice uh thank you uh for your

3185
02:11:22,189 --> 02:11:18,420
kindness generosity and support of the

3186
02:11:22,729 --> 02:11:22,199
show I am going to take one moment to

3187
02:11:26,149 --> 02:11:22,739
um

3188
02:11:28,850 --> 02:11:26,159
to remind you that we are a viewer

3189
02:11:31,970 --> 02:11:28,860
supported show and

3190
02:11:33,350 --> 02:11:31,980
um this show is supported by viewers

3191
02:11:36,709 --> 02:11:33,360
like you

3192
02:11:41,570 --> 02:11:36,719
so uh one second let me

3193
02:11:43,310 --> 02:11:41,580
oh yeah uh Halo algo Reyes here on

3194
02:11:45,709 --> 02:11:43,320
Twitch and says glad you are back on

3195
02:11:48,950 --> 02:11:45,719
Twitch Stephen I'm glad to be back I see

3196
02:11:50,510 --> 02:11:48,960
a lot of you twitch viewers in the live

3197
02:11:52,490 --> 02:11:50,520
chat tonight for those that don't know

3198
02:11:55,729 --> 02:11:52,500
it aggravates all of the live chat

3199
02:11:58,010 --> 02:11:55,739
comments to me so I can see I can't see

3200
02:12:01,790 --> 02:11:58,020
Rumble and odyssey but I but I can see

3201
02:12:03,350 --> 02:12:01,800
twitch Facebook uh YouTube and more

3202
02:12:05,390 --> 02:12:03,360
um and I see many of you people from

3203
02:12:07,850 --> 02:12:05,400
Twitch in the live chat I want to remind

3204
02:12:10,370 --> 02:12:07,860
you a reviewer supported show and let

3205
02:12:14,149 --> 02:12:10,380
you know how you can support us and

3206
02:12:26,770 --> 02:12:14,159
um uh help us to continue this journey

3207
02:12:32,810 --> 02:12:30,470
show wonderful people like you who enjoy

3208
02:12:35,470 --> 02:12:32,820
the show send pledges in the form of

3209
02:12:39,229 --> 02:12:35,480
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3210
02:12:41,589 --> 02:12:39,239
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3211
02:12:44,930 --> 02:12:41,599
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3212
02:12:47,089 --> 02:12:44,940
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3213
02:12:50,450 --> 02:12:47,099
little as one dollar a month you can get

3214
02:12:53,270 --> 02:12:50,460
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3215
02:12:54,890 --> 02:12:53,280
backstage pass Early Access to all my

3216
02:12:57,410 --> 02:12:54,900
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3217
02:13:00,109 --> 02:12:57,420
distributed publicly Stephen campion's

3218
02:13:03,470 --> 02:13:00,119
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3219
02:13:05,510 --> 02:13:03,480
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3220
02:13:08,149 --> 02:13:05,520
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3221
02:13:10,910 --> 02:13:08,159
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3222
02:13:13,850 --> 02:13:10,920
all the patreon benefits plus a special

3223
02:13:16,609 --> 02:13:13,860
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3224
02:13:19,729 --> 02:13:16,619
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3225
02:13:22,850 --> 02:13:19,739
monthly Members Only video we thank you

3226
02:13:26,209 --> 02:13:22,860
all kinds and generous benefactors for

3227
02:13:39,669 --> 02:13:26,219
supporting truth Seekers thank you for

3228
02:13:55,850 --> 02:13:42,589
thank you

3229
02:14:01,490 --> 02:13:58,669
so we're back friends uh I want to thank

3230
02:14:04,129 --> 02:14:01,500
uh the chat room moderators remind you

3231
02:14:06,530 --> 02:14:04,139
that you can join us we have a Discord

3232
02:14:08,270 --> 02:14:06,540
server so if you enjoy these live chats

3233
02:14:10,490 --> 02:14:08,280
where you can chat with like-minded

3234
02:14:13,609 --> 02:14:10,500
people interested in these strange and

3235
02:14:16,250 --> 02:14:13,619
esoteric topics you can do that not just

3236
02:14:18,530 --> 02:14:16,260
during our live broadcast but also 24

3237
02:14:20,689 --> 02:14:18,540
hours a day seven days a week in our

3238
02:14:24,830 --> 02:14:20,699
Discord server we have lots of different

3239
02:14:27,830 --> 02:14:24,840
areas for different areas of uh

3240
02:14:29,870 --> 02:14:27,840
conspiracy land and

3241
02:14:32,689 --> 02:14:29,880
um tonight was great and I want to thank

3242
02:14:35,270 --> 02:14:32,699
you for being here all of you because I

3243
02:14:38,510 --> 02:14:35,280
got two things that have been on my

3244
02:14:41,390 --> 02:14:38,520
to-do list off my to-do list tonight and

3245
02:14:44,030 --> 02:14:41,400
that is this multi-camera setup uh I've

3246
02:14:45,410 --> 02:14:44,040
got more than these uh but we just use

3247
02:14:49,189 --> 02:14:45,420
three tonight

3248
02:14:51,589 --> 02:14:49,199
still testing the others and sort of

3249
02:14:54,910 --> 02:14:51,599
cleaning up and and getting this place

3250
02:14:57,050 --> 02:14:54,920
uh more presentable for live broadcast

3251
02:15:00,530 --> 02:14:57,060
it's interesting but there's something

3252
02:15:02,870 --> 02:15:00,540
called forced perspective you know the

3253
02:15:04,850 --> 02:15:02,880
entire room in here can be a huge

3254
02:15:07,010 --> 02:15:04,860
complete and total mess but if I just

3255
02:15:10,129 --> 02:15:07,020
use that close shot that most people use

3256
02:15:12,229 --> 02:15:10,139
you just don't see any of that but we've

3257
02:15:14,330 --> 02:15:12,239
got all kinds of uh you know I've got

3258
02:15:16,609 --> 02:15:14,340
half the room cleared out and cleaned up

3259
02:15:18,589 --> 02:15:16,619
and you see there's a piece of trim

3260
02:15:22,010 --> 02:15:18,599
molding I still have to nail up later

3261
02:15:24,050 --> 02:15:22,020
tonight and we're getting it all dialed

3262
02:15:28,129 --> 02:15:24,060
in all working on the other side of the

3263
02:15:30,050 --> 02:15:28,139
room is another uh 50 inch screen where

3264
02:15:31,790 --> 02:15:30,060
we can play things relevant to what

3265
02:15:35,569 --> 02:15:31,800
we're talking about tonight we just put

3266
02:15:38,629 --> 02:15:35,579
a sort of visualizer this is uh just

3267
02:15:40,910 --> 02:15:38,639
something strange and trippy and

3268
02:15:43,250 --> 02:15:40,920
um I'm so happy that these two things

3269
02:15:46,910 --> 02:15:43,260
that I've wanted to really make

3270
02:15:50,270 --> 02:15:46,920
happen we tried before uh with the

3271
02:15:52,189 --> 02:15:50,280
multi-camera set up but tonight as of

3272
02:15:54,350 --> 02:15:52,199
this week we're really firing on all

3273
02:15:57,050 --> 02:15:54,360
cylinders we've got this multi-camera

3274
02:15:59,149 --> 02:15:57,060
set up we're streaming live to two

3275
02:16:01,250 --> 02:15:59,159
different locations on Facebook we're

3276
02:16:04,669 --> 02:16:01,260
streaming to my personal Facebook page

3277
02:16:06,950 --> 02:16:04,679
it's just Steve Camden on Facebook if

3278
02:16:08,810 --> 02:16:06,960
you want to follow me and we also have a

3279
02:16:11,209 --> 02:16:08,820
true Seekers Facebook page that we're

3280
02:16:14,870 --> 02:16:11,219
streaming live to of course YouTube

3281
02:16:17,709 --> 02:16:14,880
We're streaming live to Twitch Twitter

3282
02:16:20,450 --> 02:16:17,719
Odyssey and Rumble all at the same time

3283
02:16:22,850 --> 02:16:20,460
this is part of the new distribution

3284
02:16:27,709 --> 02:16:22,860
Network and also

3285
02:16:30,950 --> 02:16:27,719
uh we will continue to be on all audio

3286
02:16:34,790 --> 02:16:30,960
podcast platforms anywhere that you get

3287
02:16:37,129 --> 02:16:34,800
your podcasts you can get our show and

3288
02:16:40,009 --> 02:16:37,139
uh I want to remind you people if you're

3289
02:16:43,429 --> 02:16:40,019
listening in audio podcast land of two

3290
02:16:45,530 --> 02:16:43,439
things please do us a favor and make

3291
02:16:48,290 --> 02:16:45,540
sure that if you're listening to an

3292
02:16:51,830 --> 02:16:48,300
audio podcast that you rate US many of

3293
02:16:54,169 --> 02:16:51,840
the audio podcast Distributors like uh

3294
02:16:56,690 --> 02:16:54,179
Apple will let you rate the podcast and

3295
02:16:58,610 --> 02:16:56,700
if we get good ratings We rise in the

3296
02:17:01,190 --> 02:16:58,620
search engines and more people find us

3297
02:17:04,669 --> 02:17:01,200
so please rate US five stars rate is the

3298
02:17:07,070 --> 02:17:04,679
best that you can and we also want to

3299
02:17:08,810 --> 02:17:07,080
make sure uh to remind you if you're

3300
02:17:11,570 --> 02:17:08,820
listening in audio podcast land you're

3301
02:17:14,270 --> 02:17:11,580
missing half the fun please do go on

3302
02:17:16,669 --> 02:17:14,280
over to YouTube and put true Seekers one

3303
02:17:18,889 --> 02:17:16,679
word in the search bar and you'll see me

3304
02:17:20,870 --> 02:17:18,899
the strange guy with sunglasses I'm your

3305
02:17:22,549 --> 02:17:20,880
host go to that Channel smash the

3306
02:17:26,270 --> 02:17:22,559
Subscribe button hit that notification

3307
02:17:27,770 --> 02:17:26,280
Bell and you too will know when we're

3308
02:17:29,690 --> 02:17:27,780
doing a live broadcast you could come

3309
02:17:31,610 --> 02:17:29,700
here be a part of the live chat ask

3310
02:17:35,330 --> 02:17:31,620
questions comments we're going to have

3311
02:17:37,669 --> 02:17:35,340
some time for that as well uh

3312
02:17:41,690 --> 02:17:37,679
and we want to be sure to also remind

3313
02:17:43,549 --> 02:17:41,700
you uh if you're listening on a

3314
02:17:46,250 --> 02:17:43,559
distribution a video distribution

3315
02:17:48,830 --> 02:17:46,260
platform or watching please be sure to

3316
02:17:51,110 --> 02:17:48,840
like comment subscribe and share the

3317
02:17:53,570 --> 02:17:51,120
video if you're watching the twitch

3318
02:17:55,790 --> 02:17:53,580
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3319
02:17:58,190 --> 02:17:55,800
The Odyssey video share that out on your

3320
02:17:59,450 --> 02:17:58,200
social media it really does help and of

3321
02:18:02,209 --> 02:17:59,460
course if you're listening on YouTube

3322
02:18:05,990 --> 02:18:02,219
share that as well it really does help

3323
02:18:09,349 --> 02:18:06,000
to rise Us in the search engines and

3324
02:18:13,790 --> 02:18:09,359
help more people we would like to beat

3325
02:18:16,790 --> 02:18:13,800
the system here as Independent Media and

3326
02:18:19,310 --> 02:18:16,800
I find it amazing and interesting I was

3327
02:18:21,830 --> 02:18:19,320
just commenting to a friend but

3328
02:18:24,589 --> 02:18:21,840
some time ago

3329
02:18:27,349 --> 02:18:24,599
um I interviewed for a job at a local

3330
02:18:29,570 --> 02:18:27,359
radio station and

3331
02:18:34,009 --> 02:18:29,580
um I didn't get the job and I was really

3332
02:18:37,070 --> 02:18:34,019
upset but recently uh I found out that

3333
02:18:40,310 --> 02:18:37,080
my show currently today which I started

3334
02:18:43,730 --> 02:18:40,320
independently this show beats that radio

3335
02:18:47,030 --> 02:18:43,740
station as far as uh some of the numbers

3336
02:18:49,549 --> 02:18:47,040
which is amazing to it's it's a crappy

3337
02:18:51,469 --> 02:18:49,559
radio nobody listens to them but

3338
02:18:55,250 --> 02:18:51,479
um I'm a big supporter of Independent

3339
02:18:57,830 --> 02:18:55,260
Media and uh I I just think it's uh

3340
02:19:00,650 --> 02:18:57,840
technology is empowering some of you

3341
02:19:02,410 --> 02:19:00,660
know that I'm a computer science guy and

3342
02:19:05,929 --> 02:19:02,420
recently I've been thinking

3343
02:19:09,230 --> 02:19:05,939
I have to employ more of my technical

3344
02:19:11,089 --> 02:19:09,240
abilities to grow my show

3345
02:19:13,310 --> 02:19:11,099
um not that I was being lazy but there's

3346
02:19:15,469 --> 02:19:13,320
so many things to do with the show this

3347
02:19:17,929 --> 02:19:15,479
week I really am taking some time to

3348
02:19:19,969 --> 02:19:17,939
just deal with technical stuff like the

3349
02:19:22,669 --> 02:19:19,979
distribution platforms and streaming out

3350
02:19:26,629 --> 02:19:22,679
to more platforms and getting us on more

3351
02:19:29,089 --> 02:19:26,639
uh you know getting the show on more

3352
02:19:32,990 --> 02:19:29,099
places so I'm really going to focus on

3353
02:19:36,349 --> 02:19:33,000
doing that and um I think that's time

3354
02:19:40,009 --> 02:19:36,359
well spent and uh I'm I'm happy that

3355
02:19:42,589 --> 02:19:40,019
we're able now to uh get the show to

3356
02:19:43,330 --> 02:19:42,599
more places and

3357
02:19:46,669 --> 02:19:43,340
um

3358
02:19:49,969 --> 02:19:46,679
we will take some time for comments and

3359
02:19:53,510 --> 02:19:49,979
questions from the live chat uh

3360
02:19:56,450 --> 02:19:53,520
happy to have so many of you here uh and

3361
02:19:59,030 --> 02:19:56,460
Mr Ian says truth Seekers Next 3D

3362
02:20:01,550 --> 02:19:59,040
printed true Seekers UFO desk toys

3363
02:20:04,130 --> 02:20:01,560
Mr Ian I am

3364
02:20:05,690 --> 02:20:04,140
I'm gonna make that deal with you I

3365
02:20:09,230 --> 02:20:05,700
think that you should be in charge of

3366
02:20:16,070 --> 02:20:13,610
um I have oh that reminds me I just want

3367
02:20:17,110 --> 02:20:16,080
to take a moment to address a certain

3368
02:20:20,750 --> 02:20:17,120
issue

3369
02:20:23,810 --> 02:20:20,760
some of you know that I didn't want to

3370
02:20:26,210 --> 02:20:23,820
get into 3D printing at all but then a

3371
02:20:29,170 --> 02:20:26,220
kind other show host from another show

3372
02:20:32,570 --> 02:20:29,180
his name is Ron from cosmic neighbors

3373
02:20:34,429 --> 02:20:32,580
he sent me a small 3D printer and and

3374
02:20:36,050 --> 02:20:34,439
promised me oh no it's not like it used

3375
02:20:38,710 --> 02:20:36,060
to be Steven they they don't aggravate

3376
02:20:41,450 --> 02:20:38,720
anymore they just work

3377
02:20:42,590 --> 02:20:41,460
I played with the 3D printer he sent me

3378
02:20:44,690 --> 02:20:42,600
the small one

3379
02:20:46,670 --> 02:20:44,700
for a little while and he was right it

3380
02:20:48,530 --> 02:20:46,680
just worked it printed whatever I wanted

3381
02:20:50,929 --> 02:20:48,540
to print but it was a small 3D printer

3382
02:20:53,389 --> 02:20:50,939
so you can only print stuff so big I

3383
02:20:55,849 --> 02:20:53,399
wanted to print big stuff so I then

3384
02:20:59,330 --> 02:20:55,859
bought a big 3D printer it can print 18

3385
02:21:01,610 --> 02:20:59,340
inch by 18 inch big things

3386
02:21:04,370 --> 02:21:01,620
um and it never worked right since I got

3387
02:21:06,830 --> 02:21:04,380
it uh it'll print small stuff okay but

3388
02:21:09,530 --> 02:21:06,840
as soon as you try to print big stuff it

3389
02:21:13,130 --> 02:21:09,540
screws up and it's one of those issues

3390
02:21:15,650 --> 02:21:13,140
where we'll print fine for 16 hours and

3391
02:21:17,809 --> 02:21:15,660
then at the 17th hour it just goes

3392
02:21:20,750 --> 02:21:17,819
haywire and wonky and stops printing it

3393
02:21:23,630 --> 02:21:20,760
right and you wasted all your time and

3394
02:21:24,889 --> 02:21:23,640
energy and filament for nothing but Ron

3395
02:21:27,889 --> 02:21:24,899
assured me

3396
02:21:30,349 --> 02:21:27,899
that that was a user problem in other

3397
02:21:32,570 --> 02:21:30,359
words I'm too stupid to level the

3398
02:21:33,770 --> 02:21:32,580
printer and get it to work right or

3399
02:21:35,990 --> 02:21:33,780
whatever

3400
02:21:38,690 --> 02:21:36,000
it was something in my settings my

3401
02:21:40,790 --> 02:21:38,700
nozzle temperature wasn't high enough no

3402
02:21:43,790 --> 02:21:40,800
I tried all that could never get the

3403
02:21:46,849 --> 02:21:43,800
thing working so Ron the whole point of

3404
02:21:48,650 --> 02:21:46,859
Ron's trip to my cabin was supposed to

3405
02:21:51,889 --> 02:21:48,660
be that Ron

3406
02:21:54,110 --> 02:21:51,899
3D printing expert who assured me that

3407
02:21:56,950 --> 02:21:54,120
the stuff would work was supposed to

3408
02:21:59,990 --> 02:21:56,960
come to my cabin and fix the 3D printer

3409
02:22:01,910 --> 02:22:00,000
and Saturday we were busy with the sky

3410
02:22:04,070 --> 02:22:01,920
watching and technical stuff and

3411
02:22:06,050 --> 02:22:04,080
streaming and eating and all this stuff

3412
02:22:08,929 --> 02:22:06,060
uh Sunday

3413
02:22:10,730 --> 02:22:08,939
he was we were gonna I was I had it in

3414
02:22:12,469 --> 02:22:10,740
my trunk I was going to put the 3D

3415
02:22:14,690 --> 02:22:12,479
printer on the table right in the middle

3416
02:22:18,290 --> 02:22:14,700
of the cabin you saw and he was going to

3417
02:22:22,969 --> 02:22:18,300
fix it Ron woke up early

3418
02:22:26,630 --> 02:22:22,979
and left and he did not fix anything

3419
02:22:28,250 --> 02:22:26,640
so Ron whose whole point in me inviting

3420
02:22:31,190 --> 02:22:28,260
him to the cabin was that he was going

3421
02:22:34,130 --> 02:22:31,200
to look at this 3D printer and fix it he

3422
02:22:37,429 --> 02:22:34,140
didn't fix it he didn't fix anything he

3423
02:22:39,830 --> 02:22:37,439
uh he he snuck out in the in in the

3424
02:22:42,170 --> 02:22:39,840
early morning hours uh

3425
02:22:44,150 --> 02:22:42,180
and I was half asleep they woke me up

3426
02:22:46,969 --> 02:22:44,160
and said like I think um Anthony

3427
02:22:50,150 --> 02:22:46,979
unfortunately he wasn't feeling well so

3428
02:22:52,130 --> 02:22:50,160
uh that but they woke me up and said you

3429
02:22:56,270 --> 02:22:52,140
I'm not Anthony's not feeling well well

3430
02:22:58,190 --> 02:22:56,280
we're gonna go and I was half asleep

3431
02:23:00,110 --> 02:22:58,200
if I wasn't half asleep I would have

3432
02:23:01,969 --> 02:23:00,120
said no Ron you said you were going to

3433
02:23:04,309 --> 02:23:01,979
fix that 3D printer that's in my car

3434
02:23:08,150 --> 02:23:04,319
let's get it in here and fix it before

3435
02:23:10,910 --> 02:23:08,160
you go he didn't fix it he he came all

3436
02:23:12,770 --> 02:23:10,920
the way to my cabin to fix a 3D printer

3437
02:23:14,750 --> 02:23:12,780
and he didn't fix anything

3438
02:23:18,410 --> 02:23:14,760
so

3439
02:23:20,630 --> 02:23:18,420
it's there uh but luckily my neighbor at

3440
02:23:23,090 --> 02:23:20,640
the cabin is really into 3D printing and

3441
02:23:24,650 --> 02:23:23,100
I think he'll be able to help me to fix

3442
02:23:26,150 --> 02:23:24,660
this thing

3443
02:23:28,010 --> 02:23:26,160
um Chuck bam is here with the kind of

3444
02:23:29,750 --> 02:23:28,020
generous two dollars says good show sell

3445
02:23:31,309 --> 02:23:29,760
the printer that's what I'm gonna do if

3446
02:23:33,590 --> 02:23:31,319
I don't fix it I'm gonna sell it and let

3447
02:23:35,929 --> 02:23:33,600
it aggravate somebody else so questions

3448
02:23:38,510 --> 02:23:35,939
or comments for me please put it in all

3449
02:23:41,150 --> 02:23:38,520
capital letters Mr Ian says filament

3450
02:23:45,110 --> 02:23:41,160
printer equals continual tinkering and

3451
02:23:49,550 --> 02:23:45,120
fails yeah I I'm I'm learning that

3452
02:23:52,190 --> 02:23:49,560
um yeah I am the reason I didn't want

3453
02:23:54,770 --> 02:23:52,200
one Mr Ian is because everybody I know

3454
02:23:57,290 --> 02:23:54,780
that had one especially the early ones

3455
02:23:59,510 --> 02:23:57,300
they just aggravate themselves with this

3456
02:24:01,429 --> 02:23:59,520
thing constantly I didn't want

3457
02:24:03,950 --> 02:24:01,439
some kind of new hobby that was going to

3458
02:24:06,410 --> 02:24:03,960
aggravate me constantly Ron said oh no

3459
02:24:08,870 --> 02:24:06,420
that's not like that anymore they just

3460
02:24:10,849 --> 02:24:08,880
work maybe I bought the wrong one who

3461
02:24:13,490 --> 02:24:10,859
knows this thing hasn't worked right

3462
02:24:16,070 --> 02:24:13,500
since I got it I don't know

3463
02:24:18,590 --> 02:24:16,080
um Patty Wilhelm wants a truth Seekers

3464
02:24:21,969 --> 02:24:18,600
t-shirt here's what I will tell you

3465
02:24:26,050 --> 02:24:21,979
um merchandise including UFO desk toys

3466
02:24:29,150 --> 02:24:26,060
UFO or alien uh

3467
02:24:32,090 --> 02:24:29,160
busts you know like I have an example

3468
02:24:35,389 --> 02:24:32,100
here oh this would be bad now we gotta

3469
02:24:38,389 --> 02:24:35,399
now we have a reason to have multi-cams

3470
02:24:39,830 --> 02:24:38,399
and be able to uh

3471
02:24:41,929 --> 02:24:39,840
um

3472
02:24:44,450 --> 02:24:41,939
let's see if we can

3473
02:24:48,170 --> 02:24:44,460
find a better way to do this yeah

3474
02:24:49,910 --> 02:24:48,180
this is uh one of the aliens so we got a

3475
02:24:51,590 --> 02:24:49,920
bunch of different aliens and things

3476
02:24:53,090 --> 02:24:51,600
we're going to have those available very

3477
02:24:54,830 --> 02:24:53,100
soon

3478
02:24:56,630 --> 02:24:54,840
um and and I'm gonna try to get

3479
02:24:58,130 --> 02:24:56,640
Teespring going again I know you guys

3480
02:25:00,710 --> 02:24:58,140
want t-shirts

3481
02:25:03,110 --> 02:25:00,720
um I tried before had issues with

3482
02:25:05,090 --> 02:25:03,120
Teespring and couldn't get it to do what

3483
02:25:07,610 --> 02:25:05,100
I wanted it to do I'm gonna try again

3484
02:25:10,130 --> 02:25:07,620
I've got two huge things off my list

3485
02:25:12,710 --> 02:25:10,140
which is this distribution network is

3486
02:25:14,389 --> 02:25:12,720
going and by the way on the audio side

3487
02:25:17,690 --> 02:25:14,399
we're going to be going to a whole bunch

3488
02:25:20,570 --> 02:25:17,700
of new platforms there as well and I'm

3489
02:25:24,710 --> 02:25:20,580
also working on a project which

3490
02:25:27,590 --> 02:25:24,720
will aggregate all of the numbers for us

3491
02:25:29,750 --> 02:25:27,600
which what do I mean I mean

3492
02:25:32,990 --> 02:25:29,760
I'm going to have a spreadsheet system

3493
02:25:35,389 --> 02:25:33,000
that will send with a Web Bot that will

3494
02:25:37,730 --> 02:25:35,399
go and check the numbers every day on

3495
02:25:39,290 --> 02:25:37,740
each of the videos in other words

3496
02:25:41,990 --> 02:25:39,300
you know you're not getting it if I'm

3497
02:25:43,790 --> 02:25:42,000
just looking on YouTube that's a major

3498
02:25:45,290 --> 02:25:43,800
part of our views but now that we're

3499
02:25:47,750 --> 02:25:45,300
going to be on all these all platforms

3500
02:25:50,510 --> 02:25:47,760
we're going to have a lot more views but

3501
02:25:54,170 --> 02:25:50,520
they're across for you know all these

3502
02:25:56,510 --> 02:25:54,180
different platforms so this Web Bot is

3503
02:25:59,330 --> 02:25:56,520
going to check the numbers and shoot the

3504
02:26:02,570 --> 02:25:59,340
numbers into a spreadsheet for me and

3505
02:26:06,610 --> 02:26:02,580
then we'll be able to get a truer idea

3506
02:26:09,590 --> 02:26:06,620
of the views uh total for each broadcast

3507
02:26:11,389 --> 02:26:09,600
and we're doing that partially for

3508
02:26:13,790 --> 02:26:11,399
advertisers who always want to see

3509
02:26:16,550 --> 02:26:13,800
numbers and partially just for my own

3510
02:26:18,230 --> 02:26:16,560
sanity so that we know if it's worth it

3511
02:26:21,290 --> 02:26:18,240
to continue with these alt video

3512
02:26:24,590 --> 02:26:21,300
platforms or not and

3513
02:26:27,590 --> 02:26:24,600
um also uh it will take the numbers for

3514
02:26:29,750 --> 02:26:27,600
the audio podcast and let us know you

3515
02:26:31,429 --> 02:26:29,760
know some days we're getting hundreds

3516
02:26:34,849 --> 02:26:31,439
and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds

3517
02:26:37,370 --> 02:26:34,859
of downloads it's amazing to see things

3518
02:26:39,050 --> 02:26:37,380
beginning to grow and with this new

3519
02:26:40,670 --> 02:26:39,060
distribution Network that we've got

3520
02:26:43,910 --> 02:26:40,680
going

3521
02:26:46,730 --> 02:26:43,920
um our audience reach has improved

3522
02:26:49,730 --> 02:26:46,740
dramatically as of today very happy

3523
02:26:52,550 --> 02:26:49,740
about that so uh now that I've gotten

3524
02:26:55,490 --> 02:26:52,560
that stuff off my list Patty I have time

3525
02:26:56,389 --> 02:26:55,500
for look in the Teespring look into this

3526
02:26:58,370 --> 02:26:56,399
uh

3527
02:27:00,650 --> 02:26:58,380
hopefully we're going to fix the 3D

3528
02:27:03,309 --> 02:27:00,660
printer and be able to print the prizes

3529
02:27:05,570 --> 02:27:03,319
and things like this

3530
02:27:09,050 --> 02:27:05,580
Patty Wilhelm says Lewis the

3531
02:27:11,809 --> 02:27:09,060
presentation was thumbs up I agree uh

3532
02:27:12,849 --> 02:27:11,819
Lewis is one of the great guy one of the

3533
02:27:15,410 --> 02:27:12,859
good guys

3534
02:27:17,929 --> 02:27:15,420
and thanks Louis I can count the good

3535
02:27:21,370 --> 02:27:17,939
guys on two hands that I think are left

3536
02:27:24,770 --> 02:27:21,380
in this that aren't liars and fraudsters

3537
02:27:26,870 --> 02:27:24,780
Lewis and Steve long are still on my

3538
02:27:29,809 --> 02:27:26,880
list of good guys don't piss me off you

3539
02:27:32,090 --> 02:27:29,819
two right

3540
02:27:34,250 --> 02:27:32,100
uh I'm aware of somebody else that

3541
02:27:35,809 --> 02:27:34,260
people think pissed me off and I you

3542
02:27:37,309 --> 02:27:35,819
know I don't I don't care about some of

3543
02:27:41,990 --> 02:27:37,319
the drama

3544
02:27:46,969 --> 02:27:42,000
um but it is interesting uh that

3545
02:27:49,309 --> 02:27:46,979
some people do 180s here you know

3546
02:27:50,750 --> 02:27:49,319
um I'm not really sure about that so

3547
02:27:52,910 --> 02:27:50,760
comments and questions put them in all

3548
02:27:55,610 --> 02:27:52,920
capital letters Chuck bam says I'm in

3549
02:27:59,270 --> 02:27:55,620
love with Twitter bot we may meet if I

3550
02:28:01,429 --> 02:27:59,280
send a prepaid debit card yeah they

3551
02:28:03,710 --> 02:28:01,439
always ask for money right

3552
02:28:05,630 --> 02:28:03,720
they always ask for money what is that

3553
02:28:08,330 --> 02:28:05,640
about why do they always ask for money

3554
02:28:10,730 --> 02:28:08,340
right I've got all kinds of hot chicks

3555
02:28:13,130 --> 02:28:10,740
on Facebook trying to friend me and they

3556
02:28:15,410 --> 02:28:13,140
and then they ask for money right and

3557
02:28:17,990 --> 02:28:15,420
too bad I I have a single friend that

3558
02:28:20,690 --> 02:28:18,000
falls for all that stuff like

3559
02:28:23,389 --> 02:28:20,700
I feel like tell them like do you really

3560
02:28:25,309 --> 02:28:23,399
think some 21 year old looking super hot

3561
02:28:27,290 --> 02:28:25,319
chick with big boobs wants to be your

3562
02:28:31,490 --> 02:28:27,300
friend do you really think that's real

3563
02:28:34,969 --> 02:28:31,500
dude you know but it is what it is

3564
02:28:38,210 --> 02:28:34,979
guys are lonely and people will exploit

3565
02:28:42,349 --> 02:28:38,220
people's loneliness and play off of that

3566
02:28:44,750 --> 02:28:42,359
so um I'm still uh checking in here and

3567
02:28:45,710 --> 02:28:44,760
it looks like all the streams according

3568
02:28:49,190 --> 02:28:45,720
to my

3569
02:28:52,130 --> 02:28:49,200
um analytics here on a

3570
02:28:55,190 --> 02:28:52,140
are all healthy and that's a great thing

3571
02:28:57,290 --> 02:28:55,200
that means everything's working

3572
02:28:59,690 --> 02:28:57,300
um and I can't tell you how happy I am

3573
02:29:02,750 --> 02:28:59,700
that it appears that this whole thing

3574
02:29:04,910 --> 02:29:02,760
is working I thought that this was going

3575
02:29:08,330 --> 02:29:04,920
to be you know dropping frames and

3576
02:29:10,630 --> 02:29:08,340
screwing things up and uh I'm glad that

3577
02:29:14,690 --> 02:29:10,640
it it appears that everything is working

3578
02:29:17,090 --> 02:29:14,700
uh I also want to remind everyone if you

3579
02:29:20,330 --> 02:29:17,100
are listening to an audio podcast of

3580
02:29:23,030 --> 02:29:20,340
course those are replays so for example

3581
02:29:25,190 --> 02:29:23,040
if you're looking for tonight's show it

3582
02:29:28,130 --> 02:29:25,200
will be posted right after broadcast

3583
02:29:30,590 --> 02:29:28,140
going forward we're all caught up for

3584
02:29:33,770 --> 02:29:30,600
once on the audio podcast as soon as the

3585
02:29:36,770 --> 02:29:33,780
the show finishes taping here I then

3586
02:29:38,990 --> 02:29:36,780
upload it to our main Distribution Hub

3587
02:29:42,349 --> 02:29:39,000
for the audio podcast that shoots it out

3588
02:29:45,349 --> 02:29:42,359
to all places pods are cast you can get

3589
02:29:47,389 --> 02:29:45,359
it everywhere our uh audio podcast

3590
02:29:49,670 --> 02:29:47,399
anywhere you get podcasts just look up

3591
02:29:52,790 --> 02:29:49,680
true Seekers look for me the strange guy

3592
02:29:53,510 --> 02:29:52,800
with sunglasses and you will find us

3593
02:29:57,770 --> 02:29:53,520
um

3594
02:29:59,990 --> 02:29:57,780
so uh yeah most of me is glad that just

3595
02:30:01,429 --> 02:30:00,000
tonight went okay I was I was kind of

3596
02:30:02,330 --> 02:30:01,439
worried that we would have a lot of

3597
02:30:04,969 --> 02:30:02,340
weird

3598
02:30:07,790 --> 02:30:04,979
Tech issues and problems but it appears

3599
02:30:10,010 --> 02:30:07,800
that everything is in love right

3600
02:30:13,550 --> 02:30:10,020
Amy Collins says I was in love with

3601
02:30:13,560 --> 02:30:16,910
uh yeah

3602
02:30:20,750 --> 02:30:18,889
out there Channel says I think you need

3603
02:30:25,309 --> 02:30:20,760
picture-in-picture on the side camera

3604
02:30:28,070 --> 02:30:25,319
when you're on front view uh well yeah I

3605
02:30:30,050 --> 02:30:28,080
could do I could do that I'm gonna play

3606
02:30:31,849 --> 02:30:30,060
around with this multicam setup tonight

3607
02:30:35,090 --> 02:30:31,859
I still have to get some things working

3608
02:30:37,490 --> 02:30:35,100
and clean up over here I've removed the

3609
02:30:39,050 --> 02:30:37,500
3D printer from here in my office which

3610
02:30:40,969 --> 02:30:39,060
clears a lot of space that thing was

3611
02:30:43,250 --> 02:30:40,979
huge and took up a whole table in the

3612
02:30:45,590 --> 02:30:43,260
corner now I've got room for more

3613
02:30:47,809 --> 02:30:45,600
computers just what I need there this

3614
02:30:51,770 --> 02:30:47,819
room is stuffed full of computers we've

3615
02:30:54,410 --> 02:30:51,780
got uh two over here three over here two

3616
02:30:55,670 --> 02:30:54,420
here laptop here

3617
02:31:00,650 --> 02:30:55,680
um

3618
02:31:02,389 --> 02:31:00,660
right she says it looks like NASA in

3619
02:31:05,929 --> 02:31:02,399
there why do you need them all on at

3620
02:31:06,950 --> 02:31:05,939
once and the truth is I don't but um you

3621
02:31:07,610 --> 02:31:06,960
know

3622
02:31:11,330 --> 02:31:07,620
um

3623
02:31:14,510 --> 02:31:11,340
it's just cool to have and luckily I had

3624
02:31:16,969 --> 02:31:14,520
a bunch of extra uh I had a couple of

3625
02:31:20,809 --> 02:31:16,979
extra really big screens so I thought

3626
02:31:22,370 --> 02:31:20,819
why not why not use those big screens in

3627
02:31:24,469 --> 02:31:22,380
here

3628
02:31:26,870 --> 02:31:24,479
um you know and we tonight is just some

3629
02:31:29,389 --> 02:31:26,880
trippy stuff playing but I could have

3630
02:31:33,530 --> 02:31:29,399
slideshows for example if we were

3631
02:31:36,050 --> 02:31:33,540
discussing a certain case or story there

3632
02:31:40,090 --> 02:31:36,060
could be a slideshow of images behind me

3633
02:31:44,330 --> 02:31:40,100
here while we uh are doing the show

3634
02:31:46,849 --> 02:31:44,340
anything to add uh to the Ambiance I'm

3635
02:31:49,250 --> 02:31:46,859
all for it I think it's it's a good idea

3636
02:31:54,290 --> 02:31:53,330
and um yeah and uh I definitely want to

3637
02:31:58,670 --> 02:31:54,300
thank

3638
02:32:00,650 --> 02:31:58,680
um Julian Chandra from Odyssey he's the

3639
02:32:03,530 --> 02:32:00,660
CEO

3640
02:32:06,110 --> 02:32:03,540
um they are doing amazing things over

3641
02:32:08,809 --> 02:32:06,120
there at Odyssey and if I had to pick my

3642
02:32:12,050 --> 02:32:08,819
favorite alt video platform it would be

3643
02:32:14,090 --> 02:32:12,060
Odyssey by the way uh we were gonna be

3644
02:32:15,650 --> 02:32:14,100
live streaming to bit shoot but live

3645
02:32:18,110 --> 02:32:15,660
streaming to bit shoot is only available

3646
02:32:21,650 --> 02:32:18,120
for select content creators and

3647
02:32:23,090 --> 02:32:21,660
unfortunately we were not selected uh so

3648
02:32:25,309 --> 02:32:23,100
far

3649
02:32:27,710 --> 02:32:25,319
um but what we're going to do is include

3650
02:32:30,530 --> 02:32:27,720
bit shoot going forward but that's going

3651
02:32:33,170 --> 02:32:30,540
to be like the audio podcast so after

3652
02:32:36,230 --> 02:32:33,180
the show ends I download the video and

3653
02:32:40,250 --> 02:32:36,240
then I upload the show to bit shoot but

3654
02:32:42,650 --> 02:32:40,260
going forward we will have every uh show

3655
02:32:45,530 --> 02:32:42,660
going forward from today forward will be

3656
02:32:49,210 --> 02:32:45,540
available on bit shoot and also for

3657
02:32:54,910 --> 02:32:49,220
those that have asked we have uh

3658
02:32:59,990 --> 02:32:54,920
Rumble is we are currently importing all

3659
02:33:02,750 --> 02:33:00,000
750 of our uh true Seeker shows it's

3660
02:33:04,490 --> 02:33:02,760
about 750 I should say not that's not an

3661
02:33:07,910 --> 02:33:04,500
exact number

3662
02:33:11,230 --> 02:33:07,920
um those are all slowly being imported

3663
02:33:14,510 --> 02:33:11,240
to rumble right now

3664
02:33:18,710 --> 02:33:14,520
so um I don't know how long that's going

3665
02:33:21,349 --> 02:33:18,720
to take we're I can I can

3666
02:33:23,510 --> 02:33:21,359
show I can take a look here and see how

3667
02:33:25,490 --> 02:33:23,520
many that we have

3668
02:33:26,990 --> 02:33:25,500
have uploaded

3669
02:33:30,290 --> 02:33:27,000
now

3670
02:33:32,570 --> 02:33:30,300
this is going to take months though uh

3671
02:33:36,230 --> 02:33:32,580
it looks like we got about 30 of the

3672
02:33:38,990 --> 02:33:36,240
latest and it's going in reverse order

3673
02:33:43,010 --> 02:33:39,000
um so we're we've uploaded all of them

3674
02:33:47,030 --> 02:33:43,020
back to October 14th right now

3675
02:33:48,889 --> 02:33:47,040
um October 14th of 2022 and it's got to

3676
02:33:52,670 --> 02:33:48,899
go all this is going to take a while

3677
02:33:56,990 --> 02:33:52,680
it's got to go to June 4th of 2020 and

3678
02:33:59,030 --> 02:33:57,000
again this is almost 750 live shows but

3679
02:34:01,370 --> 02:33:59,040
it will be great and and we want to

3680
02:34:04,809 --> 02:34:01,380
thank Rumble because uh it'll be great

3681
02:34:08,990 --> 02:34:04,819
to have a one-to-one mirror all of our

3682
02:34:11,510 --> 02:34:09,000
available all of our shows ever produced

3683
02:34:13,429 --> 02:34:11,520
will be mirrored and available on Rumble

3684
02:34:16,429 --> 02:34:13,439
so should anything happen to our YouTube

3685
02:34:19,309 --> 02:34:16,439
channel we have backups and copies of

3686
02:34:20,270 --> 02:34:19,319
everything I'm also doing a takeout this

3687
02:34:24,250 --> 02:34:20,280
week

3688
02:34:28,190 --> 02:34:24,260
um of every show I've got a new server

3689
02:34:29,990 --> 02:34:28,200
despite Ron not fixing my uh my 3D

3690
02:34:31,670 --> 02:34:30,000
printer I really can't bust this boss

3691
02:34:34,070 --> 02:34:31,680
too much because

3692
02:34:37,370 --> 02:34:34,080
Ron didn't know this

3693
02:34:40,309 --> 02:34:37,380
um but I have a thing for servers some

3694
02:34:43,610 --> 02:34:40,319
people who know me better do know that I

3695
02:34:46,130 --> 02:34:43,620
like servers even old servers

3696
02:34:49,250 --> 02:34:46,140
um and I specifically like servers that

3697
02:34:50,929 --> 02:34:49,260
run on Xeon processors

3698
02:34:54,290 --> 02:34:50,939
um there's just something about that

3699
02:34:56,690 --> 02:34:54,300
processor that I prefer and you can get

3700
02:35:00,590 --> 02:34:56,700
you know a five-year-old server that is

3701
02:35:03,889 --> 02:35:00,600
as fast as uh or almost so as a brand

3702
02:35:06,710 --> 02:35:03,899
new Intel or a brand new you know i7 or

3703
02:35:08,929 --> 02:35:06,720
I9 even in some cases they're great

3704
02:35:10,969 --> 02:35:08,939
old servers are super powerful and great

3705
02:35:12,710 --> 02:35:10,979
they make great workstations when people

3706
02:35:13,750 --> 02:35:12,720
are done beating the balls off of them

3707
02:35:17,230 --> 02:35:13,760
anyway

3708
02:35:22,010 --> 02:35:17,240
Ron did bring to the cabin a beautiful

3709
02:35:26,210 --> 02:35:22,020
Xeon uh server and so I'm going to be

3710
02:35:28,670 --> 02:35:26,220
using that as a Cloud Server and a

3711
02:35:32,170 --> 02:35:28,680
backup server so from now on every show

3712
02:35:35,330 --> 02:35:32,180
that we produce gets shot to that

3713
02:35:37,790 --> 02:35:35,340
through the cloud to that server and

3714
02:35:39,590 --> 02:35:37,800
we'll have backups of everything I don't

3715
02:35:41,929 --> 02:35:39,600
want I want to preserve the legacy of

3716
02:35:45,349 --> 02:35:41,939
the show and I don't want to be missing

3717
02:35:47,270 --> 02:35:45,359
you know uh shows should anything God

3718
02:35:52,010 --> 02:35:47,280
forbid happen

3719
02:35:54,050 --> 02:35:52,020
um so I'm glad for that we really did

3720
02:35:56,570 --> 02:35:54,060
need to stop and spend some time on all

3721
02:35:58,910 --> 02:35:56,580
these technical things right

3722
02:36:01,550 --> 02:35:58,920
Mr Ian says you should do an exclusive

3723
02:36:04,070 --> 02:36:01,560
after show Green Room so we can all chat

3724
02:36:06,590 --> 02:36:04,080
and generate for other shows just saying

3725
02:36:07,910 --> 02:36:06,600
yeah everybody you know no offense Mr

3726
02:36:10,910 --> 02:36:07,920
Ian but

3727
02:36:13,429 --> 02:36:10,920
I get a lot of you shoots right

3728
02:36:16,190 --> 02:36:13,439
like you should do this Stephen or you

3729
02:36:18,290 --> 02:36:16,200
should do that and and uh you know I try

3730
02:36:21,910 --> 02:36:18,300
to be uh

3731
02:36:26,150 --> 02:36:21,920
agreeable to what the audience wants but

3732
02:36:29,030 --> 02:36:26,160
I am doing everything I can already and

3733
02:36:31,550 --> 02:36:29,040
I'm coming up short of time for other

3734
02:36:35,150 --> 02:36:31,560
things like other parts of my business

3735
02:36:39,410 --> 02:36:35,160
besides the show and you know friends

3736
02:36:41,450 --> 02:36:39,420
and family time and work-life balance uh

3737
02:36:43,730 --> 02:36:41,460
so

3738
02:36:45,830 --> 02:36:43,740
um in a perfect world I'd be able to do

3739
02:36:49,309 --> 02:36:45,840
that every day right

3740
02:36:51,469 --> 02:36:49,319
uh but unfortunately time is always an

3741
02:36:53,870 --> 02:36:51,479
issue Outdoor Channel says it's very

3742
02:36:56,870 --> 02:36:53,880
tiring I spend four to five hours after

3743
02:36:58,429 --> 02:36:56,880
a show on admin work yeah and I even

3744
02:37:03,290 --> 02:36:58,439
tried to

3745
02:37:05,150 --> 02:37:03,300
lot of the technical stuff for me I

3746
02:37:07,790 --> 02:37:05,160
thought well he's a computer science guy

3747
02:37:09,889 --> 02:37:07,800
he knows all about this stuff maybe I

3748
02:37:12,889 --> 02:37:09,899
could get him to do help me with my show

3749
02:37:14,990 --> 02:37:12,899
do some of that no he's busy with his

3750
02:37:17,929 --> 02:37:15,000
own he doesn't have time to help me

3751
02:37:21,170 --> 02:37:17,939
right Patty says Stephen needs employees

3752
02:37:24,110 --> 02:37:21,180
well unfortunately all employees want

3753
02:37:27,469 --> 02:37:24,120
this thing called money which is always

3754
02:37:30,110 --> 02:37:27,479
in short supply not just here you know

3755
02:37:32,510 --> 02:37:30,120
it's a tough economy right now I get it

3756
02:37:38,870 --> 02:37:32,520
so

3757
02:37:40,670 --> 02:37:38,880
people are holding on to their money

3758
02:37:41,809 --> 02:37:40,680
people aren't quite as generous as they

3759
02:37:44,150 --> 02:37:41,819
usually are

3760
02:37:47,870 --> 02:37:44,160
but we roll with the punches here we

3761
02:37:51,950 --> 02:37:47,880
have all that we need and uh you know

3762
02:37:54,650 --> 02:37:51,960
I'm uh interested in continuing to

3763
02:37:56,510 --> 02:37:54,660
produce great content here and I'm

3764
02:37:58,190 --> 02:37:56,520
thankful for all the help that we get by

3765
02:38:00,590 --> 02:37:58,200
the way I should remind you that you can

3766
02:38:02,150 --> 02:38:00,600
join us on patreon for as little as a

3767
02:38:06,050 --> 02:38:02,160
dollar a month and get some extra

3768
02:38:09,290 --> 02:38:06,060
content extra goodies and all of my

3769
02:38:11,990 --> 02:38:09,300
music goes on patreon for free I'll be

3770
02:38:15,349 --> 02:38:12,000
producing a commercial album pretty soon

3771
02:38:17,030 --> 02:38:15,359
here and uh all the songs that are going

3772
02:38:20,510 --> 02:38:17,040
on that album have already been on

3773
02:38:22,790 --> 02:38:20,520
patreon for quite some time and

3774
02:38:24,950 --> 02:38:22,800
you can also become a channel member and

3775
02:38:26,809 --> 02:38:24,960
you get all the patreon benefits plus

3776
02:38:29,690 --> 02:38:26,819
some extra YouTube goodies and that's

3777
02:38:31,550 --> 02:38:29,700
five bucks a month and uh that really

3778
02:38:33,290 --> 02:38:31,560
does help us we want to thank all of our

3779
02:38:37,550 --> 02:38:33,300
kind and generous benefactors super

3780
02:38:41,030 --> 02:38:37,560
Chatters PayPal donators uh cash app

3781
02:38:43,370 --> 02:38:41,040
senders patreon supporters and channel

3782
02:38:46,010 --> 02:38:43,380
members and I will take a moment to

3783
02:38:48,469 --> 02:38:46,020
check in with the PayPal I'm not

3784
02:38:50,870 --> 02:38:48,479
I haven't looked at it yet but uh

3785
02:38:53,469 --> 02:38:50,880
Anthony from unidentified S4 gave me

3786
02:38:56,570 --> 02:38:53,479
some pretty bad news over the weekend

3787
02:39:00,770 --> 02:38:56,580
and let me know that YouTube is now

3788
02:39:04,130 --> 02:39:00,780
taking 45 of every dollar collected

3789
02:39:07,190 --> 02:39:04,140
YouTube takes 45 of it

3790
02:39:08,990 --> 02:39:07,200
um which I was surprised to see oh so

3791
02:39:12,410 --> 02:39:09,000
there we go

3792
02:39:15,950 --> 02:39:12,420
um I want to thank uh Sweet Caroline for

3793
02:39:19,250 --> 02:39:15,960
Kylie Jenner's 20 PayPal and I want to

3794
02:39:21,770 --> 02:39:19,260
thank uh Mikey B for a Kind and Generous

3795
02:39:24,530 --> 02:39:21,780
two dollar PayPal pledge thank you for

3796
02:39:26,870 --> 02:39:24,540
kindness generosity and your support of

3797
02:39:28,969 --> 02:39:26,880
the show it is much much appreciated I

3798
02:39:31,550 --> 02:39:28,979
can't tell you how thankful I am people

3799
02:39:34,750 --> 02:39:31,560
all over the world send throw a couple

3800
02:39:38,929 --> 02:39:34,760
bucks in our hat and keep us producing

3801
02:39:41,690 --> 02:39:38,939
uh great stuff and it's through your

3802
02:39:44,330 --> 02:39:41,700
generosity and support that this show

3803
02:39:46,790 --> 02:39:44,340
works you know I grew up watching PBS

3804
02:39:49,130 --> 02:39:46,800
and and my father used to send them

3805
02:39:50,690 --> 02:39:49,140
money because my father liked

3806
02:39:53,330 --> 02:39:50,700
documentaries and educational

3807
02:39:55,670 --> 02:39:53,340
programming and back before cable the

3808
02:39:57,830 --> 02:39:55,680
only place to get that was PBS so my dad

3809
02:39:59,990 --> 02:39:57,840
every year uh when they had their

3810
02:40:02,389 --> 02:40:00,000
Telethon would send a couple of bucks

3811
02:40:03,290 --> 02:40:02,399
and get a mug that cost him way too much

3812
02:40:05,990 --> 02:40:03,300
money

3813
02:40:09,290 --> 02:40:06,000
you know they had those prizes we don't

3814
02:40:13,010 --> 02:40:09,300
have prizes yet other than my thanks and

3815
02:40:14,750 --> 02:40:13,020
uh and also uh the cash clown who thanks

3816
02:40:16,490 --> 02:40:14,760
you for your kindness generosity and

3817
02:40:19,510 --> 02:40:16,500
support So this one's for all you kind

3818
02:40:25,450 --> 02:40:19,520
and generous uh supporters from tonight

3819
02:40:31,130 --> 02:40:28,490
thank you for your kindness thank you

3820
02:40:33,050 --> 02:40:31,140
for your generosity praise the cash

3821
02:40:38,990 --> 02:40:33,060
crazy cash break the cash

3822
02:40:45,050 --> 02:40:41,929
yeah so thank you for helping us to uh

3823
02:40:47,450 --> 02:40:45,060
praise the cash and uh B Baker is

3824
02:40:49,910 --> 02:40:47,460
reminding us that every any Discord

3825
02:40:52,790 --> 02:40:49,920
member can join audio chat and if you

3826
02:40:54,710 --> 02:40:52,800
guys like uh I will take Mr Ian's

3827
02:40:57,950 --> 02:40:54,720
suggestion and I'll go over to our

3828
02:41:00,230 --> 02:40:57,960
Discord be Baker or Mr Ian please put

3829
02:41:02,630 --> 02:41:00,240
the invitation to the Discord server in

3830
02:41:05,030 --> 02:41:02,640
the live chat After we end our broadcast

3831
02:41:07,010 --> 02:41:05,040
tonight while I'm finishing up

3832
02:41:08,870 --> 02:41:07,020
some administrative stuff like

3833
02:41:11,510 --> 02:41:08,880
downloading and uploading the bit shoot

3834
02:41:14,870 --> 02:41:11,520
and downloading and uploading to our

3835
02:41:19,309 --> 02:41:14,880
audio podcast I will go over and do uh

3836
02:41:21,290 --> 02:41:19,319
the the Discord voice chat or video chat

3837
02:41:22,969 --> 02:41:21,300
for some time while I'm doing that

3838
02:41:26,750 --> 02:41:22,979
tonight but you guys have to understand

3839
02:41:28,670 --> 02:41:26,760
that I'll be multitasking uh Mr Ian says

3840
02:41:30,950 --> 02:41:28,680
we all are going over there so there you

3841
02:41:35,389 --> 02:41:30,960
go after party in the Discord server

3842
02:41:38,630 --> 02:41:35,399
tonight B Baker and Mr Ian please be uh

3843
02:41:40,910 --> 02:41:38,640
please do put the Discord invitation so

3844
02:41:42,830 --> 02:41:40,920
that people who are new and may may not

3845
02:41:46,910 --> 02:41:42,840
already be in our Discord can go over

3846
02:41:48,590 --> 02:41:46,920
there the after party uh video and audio

3847
02:41:49,790 --> 02:41:48,600
chat

3848
02:41:53,090 --> 02:41:49,800
um

3849
02:41:56,690 --> 02:41:53,100
I would appreciate you guys coming over

3850
02:41:59,990 --> 02:41:56,700
there uh and I will be there uh for at

3851
02:42:02,690 --> 02:42:00,000
least an hour after the show will be in

3852
02:42:05,030 --> 02:42:02,700
the Discord live chat I consider today a

3853
02:42:07,429 --> 02:42:05,040
special day because today we got this

3854
02:42:09,889 --> 02:42:07,439
distribution Network up we've just

3855
02:42:11,050 --> 02:42:09,899
increased our reach I got a bigger bull

3856
02:42:13,429 --> 02:42:11,060
horn

3857
02:42:15,710 --> 02:42:13,439
and for my next

3858
02:42:17,450 --> 02:42:15,720
project is finishing cleaning up this

3859
02:42:20,570 --> 02:42:17,460
mess I'm sorry there's some junk laying

3860
02:42:23,450 --> 02:42:20,580
off in the front I got stands for we

3861
02:42:25,849 --> 02:42:23,460
also have a green screen here and those

3862
02:42:28,790 --> 02:42:25,859
are stands and a bunch of junk for the

3863
02:42:32,030 --> 02:42:28,800
lights the green screen doesn't work the

3864
02:42:33,770 --> 02:42:32,040
way I prefer it which is in the dark so

3865
02:42:35,809 --> 02:42:33,780
I have these super bright lights and the

3866
02:42:38,389 --> 02:42:35,819
stands that's what all that stuff is I'm

3867
02:42:41,270 --> 02:42:38,399
going to get that stowed away

3868
02:42:44,030 --> 02:42:41,280
um for those unaware in the summer

3869
02:42:46,510 --> 02:42:44,040
months it gets too hot here in this uh

3870
02:42:49,849 --> 02:42:46,520
it's basically an attic room that I'm in

3871
02:42:53,270 --> 02:42:49,859
so uh in the summer months we moved to

3872
02:42:55,190 --> 02:42:53,280
another location here in my house I'm

3873
02:42:57,290 --> 02:42:55,200
going to be putting a green screen

3874
02:42:59,030 --> 02:42:57,300
Studio over there

3875
02:43:00,889 --> 02:42:59,040
and so we'll have the best of both

3876
02:43:02,929 --> 02:43:00,899
worlds if I want to do a show on green

3877
02:43:05,210 --> 02:43:02,939
screen I just go to the other place to

3878
02:43:07,969 --> 02:43:05,220
stream from we've got all the computers

3879
02:43:09,650 --> 02:43:07,979
the webcams uh and all the equipment

3880
02:43:11,210 --> 02:43:09,660
already in there and set up and the

3881
02:43:13,190 --> 02:43:11,220
green screen I just got to take these

3882
02:43:14,450 --> 02:43:13,200
lights and all this stuff and that's

3883
02:43:16,849 --> 02:43:14,460
great because I'm going to make more

3884
02:43:19,610 --> 02:43:16,859
room in here trying to jam all this

3885
02:43:22,309 --> 02:43:19,620
stuff into one room is really not a good

3886
02:43:24,650 --> 02:43:22,319
idea so comments or questions for me

3887
02:43:27,050 --> 02:43:24,660
please put them in all capital letters

3888
02:43:30,050 --> 02:43:27,060
wow look at this be Baker says Amazon

3889
02:43:32,450 --> 02:43:30,060
getting rid of 10 000 employees before

3890
02:43:35,929 --> 02:43:32,460
Christmas that tells you how bad the

3891
02:43:38,450 --> 02:43:35,939
economy is yeah you know what Pete Baker

3892
02:43:40,190 --> 02:43:38,460
you know what I suggest to people if you

3893
02:43:43,670 --> 02:43:40,200
don't have a lot of people you need

3894
02:43:47,450 --> 02:43:43,680
gifts for I suggest you make gifts right

3895
02:43:50,750 --> 02:43:47,460
let's bring that back right I uh

3896
02:43:52,849 --> 02:43:50,760
I'm making some bird feeders and some uh

3897
02:43:54,950 --> 02:43:52,859
birdhouses and those are going to be

3898
02:43:57,170 --> 02:43:54,960
gifts by the way they're beautiful bird

3899
02:44:00,590 --> 02:43:57,180
houses and I know that might be a

3900
02:44:03,650 --> 02:44:00,600
strange gift but I happen to have uh a

3901
02:44:06,950 --> 02:44:03,660
lot of wood around in my garage and uh I

3902
02:44:08,750 --> 02:44:06,960
I know how to build bird houses and

3903
02:44:12,469 --> 02:44:08,760
they're nice and you know everybody

3904
02:44:15,230 --> 02:44:12,479
likes a birdhouse or bird feeder and

3905
02:44:19,849 --> 02:44:15,240
it's a thoughtful gift it's not like uh

3906
02:44:23,990 --> 02:44:22,190
Mr Ian says after the show why not chill

3907
02:44:27,710 --> 02:44:24,000
while with Stephen the gang on Discord

3908
02:44:29,990 --> 02:44:27,720
yeah you are almost welcome B Baker says

3909
02:44:34,070 --> 02:44:30,000
our cash clown is awesome

3910
02:44:36,050 --> 02:44:34,080
uh Mr Ian says Steve's got wood I know I

3911
02:44:38,510 --> 02:44:36,060
knew somebody was going to say that Mr

3912
02:44:40,790 --> 02:44:38,520
Ian I knew that right

3913
02:44:44,809 --> 02:44:40,800
Mr Ian says come to the dark side we

3914
02:44:47,990 --> 02:44:44,819
have cookies yeah great so uh tomorrow

3915
02:44:50,510 --> 02:44:48,000
night 9 p.m eastern time we will be

3916
02:44:52,550 --> 02:44:50,520
broadcasting even though

3917
02:44:54,889 --> 02:44:52,560
um I've got my kids all this week so

3918
02:44:56,870 --> 02:44:54,899
it's it's a little difficult for those

3919
02:44:58,849 --> 02:44:56,880
of you who have children especially

3920
02:45:01,790 --> 02:44:58,859
young children maybe you'll agree with

3921
02:45:04,490 --> 02:45:01,800
me that children can be the greatest

3922
02:45:06,770 --> 02:45:04,500
gift in my life that I've ever received

3923
02:45:07,849 --> 02:45:06,780
as my children

3924
02:45:11,690 --> 02:45:07,859
um

3925
02:45:13,610 --> 02:45:11,700
but they are exhausting my and my boys

3926
02:45:16,550 --> 02:45:13,620
are six and ten

3927
02:45:18,230 --> 02:45:16,560
and when they're home for all day it's

3928
02:45:21,290 --> 02:45:18,240
very difficult for me to take care of

3929
02:45:23,750 --> 02:45:21,300
them all day and then come here and do a

3930
02:45:26,870 --> 02:45:23,760
show for two or three hours

3931
02:45:29,570 --> 02:45:26,880
um but I'm taking my B vitamins and my

3932
02:45:31,730 --> 02:45:29,580
energy supplements and we're good I

3933
02:45:35,570 --> 02:45:31,740
think we're firing on all cylinders I

3934
02:45:37,670 --> 02:45:35,580
got a I I have to uh

3935
02:45:40,370 --> 02:45:37,680
I have to try to preserve some energy

3936
02:45:42,830 --> 02:45:40,380
tomorrow so that I'll be good for

3937
02:45:44,990 --> 02:45:42,840
tomorrow night our cake Revival or spare

3938
02:45:47,889 --> 02:45:45,000
wood can be made into tree ornaments

3939
02:45:54,110 --> 02:45:51,469
I agree I agree so I'm going to go over

3940
02:45:56,570 --> 02:45:54,120
and check out the twitch chat I see many

3941
02:45:59,750 --> 02:45:56,580
many people there I want to I'm gonna

3942
02:46:02,210 --> 02:45:59,760
write in there thanks for being here on

3943
02:46:11,330 --> 02:46:04,730
please subscribe to our YouTube channel

3944
02:46:16,130 --> 02:46:13,730
surprise we haven't been on Twitch in so

3945
02:46:17,990 --> 02:46:16,140
long and uh there was a lot of people on

3946
02:46:21,170 --> 02:46:18,000
Twitch tonight and a lot of people in

3947
02:46:23,690 --> 02:46:21,180
the twitch uh in the twitch chat we have

3948
02:46:25,849 --> 02:46:23,700
just another guy named Harry said I

3949
02:46:28,490 --> 02:46:25,859
followed Steve on Twitter and Lewis on

3950
02:46:33,190 --> 02:46:28,500
Instagram good to see

3951
02:46:39,410 --> 02:46:35,690
just another guy named Harry says I have

3952
02:46:46,670 --> 02:46:43,490
yeah so good to have you guys here in

3953
02:46:49,150 --> 02:46:46,680
the live chat uh over on Twitch we have

3954
02:46:50,870 --> 02:46:49,160
mad dog1985.

3955
02:46:56,270 --> 02:46:50,880
uh

3956
02:46:58,790 --> 02:46:56,280
many others over there in the live chat

3957
02:47:02,990 --> 02:46:58,800
I'm surprised to see so many people in

3958
02:47:05,030 --> 02:47:03,000
the twitch live chat welcome to uh truth

3959
02:47:07,490 --> 02:47:05,040
Seekers so glad to have some new friends

3960
02:47:10,070 --> 02:47:07,500
no matter where they come from I'm gonna

3961
02:47:12,230 --> 02:47:10,080
check in uh with the rumble live chat

3962
02:47:18,410 --> 02:47:12,240
and by the way if you guys are listening

3963
02:47:21,530 --> 02:47:18,420
on rumble or on uh Odyssey or watching I

3964
02:47:24,410 --> 02:47:21,540
should say on Rumble Odyssey or Facebook

3965
02:47:26,929 --> 02:47:24,420
or Twitter please do go on over to

3966
02:47:29,450 --> 02:47:26,939
YouTube put true Seekers one word in the

3967
02:47:31,429 --> 02:47:29,460
search bar you'll see me the strange guy

3968
02:47:32,630 --> 02:47:31,439
with sunglasses go to that Channel smash

3969
02:47:34,010 --> 02:47:32,640
the Subscribe button hit the

3970
02:47:37,309 --> 02:47:34,020
notification Bell

3971
02:47:40,250 --> 02:47:37,319
uh we have Tom Stanis over in the in the

3972
02:47:42,650 --> 02:47:40,260
rumble chat uh saying nice to see you

3973
02:47:45,650 --> 02:47:42,660
streaming here on YouTube

3974
02:47:47,990 --> 02:47:45,660
truth agenda says aliens are Scion the

3975
02:47:50,389 --> 02:47:48,000
Earth is flat he also says UFOs are

3976
02:47:53,750 --> 02:47:50,399
likely real though good to see you guys

3977
02:47:56,270 --> 02:47:53,760
over there and in the live chat I'm

3978
02:47:57,950 --> 02:47:56,280
gonna check in with our Odyssey live

3979
02:47:59,330 --> 02:47:57,960
Chatters we got a bunch of people over

3980
02:48:02,690 --> 02:47:59,340
there as well

3981
02:48:04,790 --> 02:48:02,700
I think I'm gonna like this uh and isn't

3982
02:48:06,710 --> 02:48:04,800
it great to have a bigger bull horde you

3983
02:48:09,230 --> 02:48:06,720
guys always hear me say that it's a big

3984
02:48:11,929 --> 02:48:09,240
club and I ain't in it and I need a

3985
02:48:14,510 --> 02:48:11,939
bigger bull horn uh and so

3986
02:48:17,090 --> 02:48:14,520
uh I think it's great I I think it's

3987
02:48:19,309 --> 02:48:17,100
great that we have so many people on all

3988
02:48:20,870 --> 02:48:19,319
these different platforms all at once I

3989
02:48:22,610 --> 02:48:20,880
wish that stream yard would be able to

3990
02:48:27,230 --> 02:48:22,620
aggregate

3991
02:48:29,510 --> 02:48:27,240
more of the uh that's odd on Odyssey the

3992
02:48:31,910 --> 02:48:29,520
live stream does not come up on the

3993
02:48:34,730 --> 02:48:31,920
channel while it's streaming you need

3994
02:48:35,990 --> 02:48:34,740
the actual uh link to it but we're gonna

3995
02:48:38,330 --> 02:48:36,000
see if I can't

3996
02:48:41,150 --> 02:48:38,340
find that here

3997
02:48:44,210 --> 02:48:41,160
uh

3998
02:48:47,210 --> 02:48:44,220
yeah there's the rumble one

3999
02:48:49,670 --> 02:48:47,220
and here is the here is the Odyssey one

4000
02:48:53,090 --> 02:48:49,680
so I've got the link we'll go over there

4001
02:48:55,849 --> 02:48:53,100
let me see a couple of people uh there

4002
02:48:57,050 --> 02:48:55,859
so welcome to the Odyssey live Chatters

4003
02:49:00,170 --> 02:48:57,060
as well

4004
02:49:02,090 --> 02:49:00,180
good to see all of you here so any

4005
02:49:04,910 --> 02:49:02,100
questions or comments for me please put

4006
02:49:07,070 --> 02:49:04,920
them in all capital letters

4007
02:49:09,889 --> 02:49:07,080
um algo Ray

4008
02:49:13,370 --> 02:49:09,899
says turned out to be a great night yes

4009
02:49:17,389 --> 02:49:13,380
it did and uh I want to shout out to my

4010
02:49:21,170 --> 02:49:17,399
um my good friend Matt who is my uh

4011
02:49:23,450 --> 02:49:21,180
close friend and neighbor at the cabin

4012
02:49:25,730 --> 02:49:23,460
um he is the one who wanted me on Twitch

4013
02:49:28,670 --> 02:49:25,740
in the first place he's big on Twitch he

4014
02:49:30,469 --> 02:49:28,680
streams video games on Twitch

4015
02:49:32,389 --> 02:49:30,479
um and told me you got to get on Twitch

4016
02:49:34,670 --> 02:49:32,399
Stephen even though I I think that

4017
02:49:37,130 --> 02:49:34,680
twitch is for video game streamers but

4018
02:49:39,710 --> 02:49:37,140
there are some more it's it's growing

4019
02:49:42,550 --> 02:49:39,720
and now there are more at different

4020
02:49:45,830 --> 02:49:42,560
shows and even podcasters are also

4021
02:49:49,490 --> 02:49:45,840
broadcasting there maybe it was a little

4022
02:49:52,250 --> 02:49:49,500
too early for us to be uh successful or

4023
02:49:55,190 --> 02:49:52,260
you know get monetized on Twitch before

4024
02:49:58,429 --> 02:49:55,200
but it looks like that is turning around

4025
02:50:00,889 --> 02:49:58,439
when we have Al Warrior 81 is over here

4026
02:50:02,690 --> 02:50:00,899
on Twitch as well

4027
02:50:07,070 --> 02:50:02,700
uh

4028
02:50:09,710 --> 02:50:07,080
streaming music on Twitch our Warrior

4029
02:50:11,809 --> 02:50:09,720
and by the way good to see you I don't

4030
02:50:15,050 --> 02:50:11,819
care where I see you whether it's twitch

4031
02:50:17,570 --> 02:50:15,060
Rumble Odyssey wherever YouTube uh good

4032
02:50:19,550 --> 02:50:17,580
to see you as always Al Warrior longtime

4033
02:50:22,670 --> 02:50:19,560
show supporter he must be a big twitch

4034
02:50:25,429 --> 02:50:22,680
guy as well many people listen I don't

4035
02:50:28,190 --> 02:50:25,439
care what platform you listen or watch

4036
02:50:30,530 --> 02:50:28,200
on I just care that you're here and

4037
02:50:34,070 --> 02:50:30,540
thank all of you all over the internet

4038
02:50:36,410 --> 02:50:34,080
tonight uh for coming here for our debut

4039
02:50:39,790 --> 02:50:36,420
broadcast of

4040
02:50:43,910 --> 02:50:39,800
um sdn the spectral distribution Network

4041
02:50:46,570 --> 02:50:43,920
thank you all for being here uh the out

4042
02:50:49,670 --> 02:50:46,580
there Channel says I need a holiday yeah

4043
02:50:51,530 --> 02:50:49,680
I tend to get a little annoyed with

4044
02:50:53,690 --> 02:50:51,540
holidays sometimes because my kids are

4045
02:50:56,630 --> 02:50:53,700
home and I can't get anything done and

4046
02:50:59,090 --> 02:50:56,640
it's not their fault it just you know uh

4047
02:51:00,950 --> 02:50:59,100
you gotta especially two boys two boys

4048
02:51:03,410 --> 02:51:00,960
running around the house you can't leave

4049
02:51:05,870 --> 02:51:03,420
those two alone for a minute you got to

4050
02:51:10,250 --> 02:51:05,880
be right on top of them where bad things

4051
02:51:15,710 --> 02:51:13,010
uh uh yeah

4052
02:51:17,929 --> 02:51:15,720
Mr Ian says true Seekers wild idea but

4053
02:51:19,969 --> 02:51:17,939
you can restream YouTube in a public VR

4054
02:51:23,389 --> 02:51:19,979
room I'm a VR developer and I can make

4055
02:51:26,750 --> 02:51:23,399
that happen very easily let talk to me

4056
02:51:28,309 --> 02:51:26,760
on uh yeah let's do it talk let's do it

4057
02:51:30,349 --> 02:51:28,319
let's do it we'll make it part of the

4058
02:51:33,110 --> 02:51:30,359
distribution Network talk to me on

4059
02:51:36,950 --> 02:51:33,120
Discord let me know what we need to do

4060
02:51:41,330 --> 02:51:39,530
yeah that's exactly what I want I want

4061
02:51:43,670 --> 02:51:41,340
it to look like your walk you're sitting

4062
02:51:46,490 --> 02:51:43,680
in a movie theater and you're watching

4063
02:51:48,170 --> 02:51:46,500
me in a movie theater that's what ex I

4064
02:51:50,889 --> 02:51:48,180
had that idea already that's why I was

4065
02:51:53,570 --> 02:51:50,899
able to just pop it out that fast Mr Ian

4066
02:51:55,550 --> 02:51:53,580
so talk to me off air we'll see if we

4067
02:51:59,090 --> 02:51:55,560
can't get that working

4068
02:52:02,030 --> 02:51:59,100
um true seekers in VR that would be fun

4069
02:52:04,490 --> 02:52:02,040
that would be very very fun so friends

4070
02:52:07,010 --> 02:52:04,500
were approaching the three hour mark I

4071
02:52:08,389 --> 02:52:07,020
only I only uh planned on a two hour

4072
02:52:11,090 --> 02:52:08,399
show tonight so we're going to be

4073
02:52:14,630 --> 02:52:11,100
bouncing on out of here but we will be

4074
02:52:17,150 --> 02:52:14,640
back tomorrow night 9 p.m Eastern

4075
02:52:20,269 --> 02:52:17,160
Standard Time and

4076
02:52:23,210 --> 02:52:20,279
um we will also be here Wednesday 9 p.m

4077
02:52:25,130 --> 02:52:23,220
Eastern Standard Time Thursday it's

4078
02:52:27,050 --> 02:52:25,140
Thanksgiving do you guys really want me

4079
02:52:30,950 --> 02:52:27,060
to do a Thanksgiving show

4080
02:52:33,889 --> 02:52:30,960
and if so you know uh

4081
02:52:36,530 --> 02:52:33,899
well I guess I could you know I'm gonna

4082
02:52:38,630 --> 02:52:36,540
probably we're probably gonna eat early

4083
02:52:39,490 --> 02:52:38,640
here like three or four o'clock in the

4084
02:52:44,570 --> 02:52:39,500
afternoon

4085
02:52:46,969 --> 02:52:44,580
uh if tradition if the usual thing that

4086
02:52:49,250 --> 02:52:46,979
we do is the same for Thursday I haven't

4087
02:52:50,750 --> 02:52:49,260
talked to my wife but we usually she

4088
02:52:54,530 --> 02:52:50,760
cooks all day and then we eat at three

4089
02:53:01,910 --> 02:52:58,790
I gotta tell you my wife is she is an

4090
02:53:07,010 --> 02:53:01,920
amazing cook and so is her mom

4091
02:53:10,490 --> 02:53:07,020
um and um I Thanksgiving is my probably

4092
02:53:12,650 --> 02:53:10,500
my favorite holiday because

4093
02:53:15,309 --> 02:53:12,660
especially if you're a man I understand

4094
02:53:18,050 --> 02:53:15,319
if you're a woman or a wife or a mom

4095
02:53:20,330 --> 02:53:18,060
Thanksgiving is probably hell for you

4096
02:53:23,389 --> 02:53:20,340
but we love and appreciate you wonderful

4097
02:53:26,269 --> 02:53:23,399
ladies doing that for us I'm a man so

4098
02:53:29,150 --> 02:53:26,279
what I do is I'm up in stretchy

4099
02:53:32,450 --> 02:53:29,160
sweatpants that expand

4100
02:53:35,330 --> 02:53:32,460
uh and I eat and then I eat some more

4101
02:53:38,690 --> 02:53:35,340
and then maybe I'll uh

4102
02:53:41,090 --> 02:53:38,700
have a cup of tea and digest for a

4103
02:53:43,969 --> 02:53:41,100
little while doze off on the couch and

4104
02:53:47,630 --> 02:53:43,979
then I go back and I eat dinner part two

4105
02:53:50,510 --> 02:53:47,640
and and then I relax for a little while

4106
02:53:51,830 --> 02:53:50,520
and then I go back and it's dessert and

4107
02:53:55,250 --> 02:53:51,840
Pie time

4108
02:53:57,170 --> 02:53:55,260
and uh I don't know I I feel guilty

4109
02:53:59,809 --> 02:53:57,180
though because my poor wife she she'll

4110
02:54:01,490 --> 02:53:59,819
be cooking all night on Wednesday and

4111
02:54:04,910 --> 02:54:01,500
she'll be cooking all morning and

4112
02:54:07,490 --> 02:54:04,920
afternoon on Thursday but for a man

4113
02:54:08,990 --> 02:54:07,500
Thanksgiving is an awesome holiday I

4114
02:54:10,790 --> 02:54:09,000
don't have to worry about gifts or doing

4115
02:54:12,950 --> 02:54:10,800
anything my wife takes care of it all

4116
02:54:14,630 --> 02:54:12,960
all of it everything she does all the

4117
02:54:16,610 --> 02:54:14,640
shopping all the cooking all the serving

4118
02:54:17,710 --> 02:54:16,620
all the everything

4119
02:54:21,410 --> 02:54:17,720
um

4120
02:54:23,990 --> 02:54:21,420
poor poor ladies but you ladies know

4121
02:54:26,210 --> 02:54:24,000
that we love and appreciate you for what

4122
02:54:27,769 --> 02:54:26,220
you do for for your husband or your

4123
02:54:29,389 --> 02:54:27,779
family

4124
02:54:32,269 --> 02:54:29,399
um and we'll try to get you back on

4125
02:54:34,190 --> 02:54:32,279
Mother's Day I I really do I really do

4126
02:54:36,889 --> 02:54:34,200
try to get my wife back on Mother's Day

4127
02:54:38,990 --> 02:54:36,899
or Christmas or whatever Christmas

4128
02:54:41,990 --> 02:54:39,000
maybe I'll pitch in and cook some things

4129
02:54:43,670 --> 02:54:42,000
I don't know right but I like how I love

4130
02:54:44,929 --> 02:54:43,680
Halloween because I just walk around

4131
02:54:46,190 --> 02:54:44,939
with my kids and take them

4132
02:54:48,410 --> 02:54:46,200
trick-or-treating

4133
02:54:52,490 --> 02:54:48,420
and I love the costumes and the candy

4134
02:54:54,650 --> 02:54:52,500
but I I love Thanksgiving just show up

4135
02:54:58,309 --> 02:54:54,660
and eat what what could be a better

4136
02:55:00,110 --> 02:54:58,319
holiday than a feast it's a feast my

4137
02:55:03,349 --> 02:55:00,120
wife is an amazing cook

4138
02:55:07,429 --> 02:55:03,359
and uh every year we have an amazing

4139
02:55:09,410 --> 02:55:07,439
amazing Thanksgiving dinner right

4140
02:55:11,809 --> 02:55:09,420
stormcrow says the Thanksgiving day of

4141
02:55:16,969 --> 02:55:11,819
Steve roasting a turkey or two third

4142
02:55:21,710 --> 02:55:19,429
oh you just get that's it I'm gonna do a

4143
02:55:24,050 --> 02:55:21,720
turkey roast I'm gonna do a turkey roast

4144
02:55:26,570 --> 02:55:24,060
on Thanksgiving night yes I think I will

4145
02:55:28,670 --> 02:55:26,580
I think I will right

4146
02:55:31,070 --> 02:55:28,680
out Warrior says that's my wife too

4147
02:55:32,750 --> 02:55:31,080
Stephen yeah well thank her for me

4148
02:55:35,889 --> 02:55:32,760
because you probably don't thank her

4149
02:55:39,530 --> 02:55:35,899
young grateful bastard

4150
02:55:42,830 --> 02:55:39,540
no I think the women know that we love

4151
02:55:44,990 --> 02:55:42,840
to eat and we're helpless right I'm not

4152
02:55:47,150 --> 02:55:45,000
helpless in the kitchen in fact a lot of

4153
02:55:49,969 --> 02:55:47,160
people don't know this about me but I

4154
02:55:52,130 --> 02:55:49,979
cook five days a week here I cook dinner

4155
02:55:54,290 --> 02:55:52,140
five days a week and my wife does the

4156
02:55:57,710 --> 02:55:54,300
weekends because she works all day at a

4157
02:56:01,130 --> 02:55:57,720
corporate job and I'm home so I you know

4158
02:56:03,650 --> 02:56:01,140
um and I wasn't I I wasn't that great a

4159
02:56:05,809 --> 02:56:03,660
cook when I first got married but I

4160
02:56:08,929 --> 02:56:05,819
really did put the effort in I watched

4161
02:56:11,929 --> 02:56:08,939
Gordon Ramsay videos and cooking videos

4162
02:56:14,570 --> 02:56:11,939
on YouTube I got cookbooks and stuff and

4163
02:56:17,330 --> 02:56:14,580
I got a lot of gadgets to make to make

4164
02:56:21,110 --> 02:56:17,340
it so easy even a man could do it

4165
02:56:22,730 --> 02:56:21,120
like you know air fryers are amazing you

4166
02:56:24,590 --> 02:56:22,740
just put stuff in there it comes out

4167
02:56:27,230 --> 02:56:24,600
delicious right

4168
02:56:29,389 --> 02:56:27,240
even it's so easy even a man could do it

4169
02:56:30,710 --> 02:56:29,399
right

4170
02:56:35,150 --> 02:56:30,720
uh

4171
02:56:37,429 --> 02:56:35,160
Marie Callender's frozen turkey dinner

4172
02:56:40,610 --> 02:56:37,439
in a can of Ocean Spray hey whatever

4173
02:56:42,230 --> 02:56:40,620
works Amy Collins when I was single I

4174
02:56:45,050 --> 02:56:42,240
had a very

4175
02:56:47,330 --> 02:56:45,060
um depressing Thanksgiving every year

4176
02:56:48,769 --> 02:56:47,340
because I I don't know it was like the

4177
02:56:51,590 --> 02:56:48,779
black sheep and I wasn't talking to my

4178
02:56:54,290 --> 02:56:51,600
parents or my family for a while so for

4179
02:56:56,990 --> 02:56:54,300
a bunch of years there I had

4180
02:56:59,450 --> 02:56:57,000
turkey lunch meat in a can of turkey

4181
02:57:01,670 --> 02:56:59,460
gravy heated up on the stove on a roll

4182
02:57:04,370 --> 02:57:01,680
that was my Thanksgiving dinner

4183
02:57:06,050 --> 02:57:04,380
I didn't even get the Ocean Spray I

4184
02:57:07,910 --> 02:57:06,060
would have killed for a Marie

4185
02:57:10,070 --> 02:57:07,920
Callender's turkey dinner those are

4186
02:57:13,010 --> 02:57:10,080
delicious I've had them a bunch of times

4187
02:57:15,530 --> 02:57:13,020
Marie Callender's also makes good

4188
02:57:18,170 --> 02:57:15,540
um that Country Fried Chicken you know

4189
02:57:19,370 --> 02:57:18,180
with like the white gravy that is

4190
02:57:21,290 --> 02:57:19,380
delicious

4191
02:57:23,030 --> 02:57:21,300
but I haven't eaten any of that kind of

4192
02:57:24,830 --> 02:57:23,040
stuff in a long time Amy because I'm not

4193
02:57:28,670 --> 02:57:24,840
eating any Frozen or processed food

4194
02:57:30,710 --> 02:57:28,680
anymore only fresh food

4195
02:57:32,450 --> 02:57:30,720
Mr Ian says we light up our path with

4196
02:57:35,630 --> 02:57:32,460
skulls and lanterns but put projectors

4197
02:57:36,710 --> 02:57:35,640
in the windows uh I used to do something

4198
02:57:38,090 --> 02:57:36,720
similar

4199
02:57:40,910 --> 02:57:38,100
yeah

4200
02:57:43,250 --> 02:57:40,920
archaic revival says to ferkey

4201
02:57:47,450 --> 02:57:43,260
and unknown Center says Marie can't cook

4202
02:57:52,550 --> 02:57:50,510
mmm mashed potatoes and gravy yeah

4203
02:57:56,269 --> 02:57:52,560
what's not to like about Thanksgiving

4204
02:58:00,469 --> 02:57:58,670
Mr E and I got fat too Mr Ian says

4205
02:58:03,889 --> 02:58:00,479
lockdown was a cruel mistress I went

4206
02:58:06,710 --> 02:58:03,899
from 32 to 34 waist and

4207
02:58:10,370 --> 02:58:06,720
to 38 waist

4208
02:58:13,309 --> 02:58:10,380
wow yeah well I've lost 20 something

4209
02:58:14,210 --> 02:58:13,319
pounds in the past six months oh by the

4210
02:58:17,809 --> 02:58:14,220
way

4211
02:58:21,230 --> 02:58:17,819
it's it's November 21st

4212
02:58:25,070 --> 02:58:21,240
two three four five six seven eight nine

4213
02:58:28,429 --> 02:58:25,080
ten eleven I got 11 days to go

4214
02:58:32,510 --> 02:58:28,439
and then I will hit six months

4215
02:58:37,010 --> 02:58:32,520
sober with zero alcohol on December 2nd

4216
02:58:40,370 --> 02:58:37,020
December 2nd will be six months of no

4217
02:58:43,490 --> 02:58:40,380
drinking for me so 11 more days I have

4218
02:58:45,110 --> 02:58:43,500
to make it and uh I am kind of dreading

4219
02:58:47,630 --> 02:58:45,120
Wednesday

4220
02:58:49,309 --> 02:58:47,640
because the night before Thanksgiving in

4221
02:58:51,290 --> 02:58:49,319
the United States I don't know if you

4222
02:58:52,490 --> 02:58:51,300
people from out of the United States are

4223
02:58:55,070 --> 02:58:52,500
aware of this that's the biggest

4224
02:58:57,530 --> 02:58:55,080
drinking night of the year it's bigger

4225
02:58:59,269 --> 02:58:57,540
than St Patrick's Day which is crazy to

4226
02:59:02,090 --> 02:58:59,279
me because I'm Irish and St Patrick's

4227
02:59:05,210 --> 02:59:02,100
Day is huge drinking day but the night

4228
02:59:07,550 --> 02:59:05,220
before Thanksgiving is historically a

4229
02:59:09,830 --> 02:59:07,560
night of drinking for most people in the

4230
02:59:13,550 --> 02:59:09,840
United States I'm not looking forward to

4231
02:59:14,570 --> 02:59:13,560
that night uh I'm afraid I'm gonna you

4232
02:59:16,790 --> 02:59:14,580
know

4233
02:59:20,150 --> 02:59:16,800
have some crazy Cravings or something

4234
02:59:22,790 --> 02:59:20,160
but I am absolutely convinced I'm making

4235
02:59:26,389 --> 02:59:22,800
it to December 2nd I'm gonna hit that

4236
02:59:29,030 --> 02:59:26,399
six months sober and uh and be a better

4237
02:59:30,110 --> 02:59:29,040
man for it right

4238
02:59:32,450 --> 02:59:30,120
okay

4239
02:59:35,750 --> 02:59:32,460
a known Center says trash can cook or

4240
02:59:40,429 --> 02:59:35,760
turkey we do it at work trash can cooker

4241
02:59:43,849 --> 02:59:42,469
I don't even know what that is is that

4242
02:59:46,910 --> 02:59:43,859
like uh

4243
02:59:48,769 --> 02:59:46,920
do you mean like um

4244
02:59:51,889 --> 02:59:48,779
a slow cooker

4245
02:59:54,110 --> 02:59:51,899
trash can cook or turkey

4246
02:59:56,269 --> 02:59:54,120
every year I have a Thanksgiving

4247
02:59:58,070 --> 02:59:56,279
tradition too and that is to watch the

4248
03:00:00,170 --> 02:59:58,080
videos of everybody that burnt their

4249
03:00:09,530 --> 03:00:00,180
garage or their house down with the with

4250
03:00:15,889 --> 03:00:12,410
yeah hi Raz I am I'm what's called

4251
03:00:17,750 --> 03:00:15,899
California sober Razz look it up yeah I

4252
03:00:20,510 --> 03:00:17,760
I you can't give up too many things you

4253
03:00:23,210 --> 03:00:20,520
like at once it's not healthy right uh

4254
03:00:24,769 --> 03:00:23,220
you got you gotta be Baker is sharing

4255
03:00:26,510 --> 03:00:24,779
our Discord

4256
03:00:30,050 --> 03:00:26,520
uh and thanks to the chat room

4257
03:00:31,070 --> 03:00:30,060
moderators Mr Ian B Baker and others in

4258
03:00:32,210 --> 03:00:31,080
there

4259
03:00:34,250 --> 03:00:32,220
um

4260
03:00:35,929 --> 03:00:34,260
and I want to thank each and every one

4261
03:00:37,910 --> 03:00:35,939
of you for joining us especially today

4262
03:00:41,929 --> 03:00:37,920
it's a special occasion we got this

4263
03:00:45,950 --> 03:00:41,939
spectral distribution Network up uh our

4264
03:00:49,550 --> 03:00:45,960
broadcast is now uh bigger better and

4265
03:00:51,950 --> 03:00:49,560
more powerful than ever before uh right

4266
03:00:53,330 --> 03:00:51,960
here from the command center and I can't

4267
03:00:56,690 --> 03:00:53,340
tell you how happy I am that everything

4268
03:00:58,370 --> 03:00:56,700
worked and that you were all here all uh

4269
03:01:02,150 --> 03:00:58,380
in all these different platforms

4270
03:01:04,010 --> 03:01:02,160
participating in the live broadcast

4271
03:01:05,210 --> 03:01:04,020
um I'm gonna remember today for a long

4272
03:01:07,309 --> 03:01:05,220
long time

4273
03:01:09,530 --> 03:01:07,319
so

4274
03:01:11,450 --> 03:01:09,540
that's all I got for you friends we'll

4275
03:01:14,630 --> 03:01:11,460
be back tomorrow night at 9 00 p.m

4276
03:01:17,630 --> 03:01:14,640
Eastern Standard Time on my way out I'm

4277
03:01:20,150 --> 03:01:17,640
gonna do uh what all good content

4278
03:01:22,490 --> 03:01:20,160
creators should do and remind you that

4279
03:01:25,670 --> 03:01:22,500
one great way to help us is to please

4280
03:01:29,170 --> 03:01:25,680
please like comment subscribe and share

4281
03:01:32,929 --> 03:01:29,180
this video it really does help

4282
03:01:36,950 --> 03:01:32,939
it really does help to reach more people

4283
03:01:40,429 --> 03:01:36,960
that engagement causes the AI algorithm

4284
03:01:43,429 --> 03:01:40,439
Gods by the way praise the AI algorithm

4285
03:01:45,830 --> 03:01:43,439
Gods my Show's fate is in your hands

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uh you too can do your part to help us

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uh have that

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algorithm notice us and help us along

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uh and I do see you guys on Twitter and

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Facebook and other places sharing the

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video thank you so much it really really

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does help by the way the best way to

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keep up with what's going on with the

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show here is to follow me on Twitter

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it's at Stephen Campion

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at Stephen Camby and just my name on

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Twitter and by the way I am fascinated

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by what's been going on with Twitter

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we're going to be doing a whole show on

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it I know it's not our usual wheelhouse

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but uh lots to talk about there with

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Elon Musk and the Twitter takeover uh

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we're gonna do that soon

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so that's all I got for you friends

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until next time my name is Stephen

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cambian good night and God bless all of

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[Applause]

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thank you

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this is Trixie reporting for truth

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Seekers UFO desk where we give you

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absolutely no gimmicks whatsoever just

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the truth and tonight I can exclusively

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reveal that a UFO has been spotted above

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Connecticut it is a tic-tac-shaped UFO

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and it is so hot I really hope you guys

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can get out your incredible

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telescopes and point them in the

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direction and

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back to you Stephen

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I'm gonna tell guys

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masses

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says

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let me tell you

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[Music]

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consciousness

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point of Consciousness if I called your

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mother a hook or a hook or a hook or

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medium travel

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oh my God

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foreign

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